Posted on 03/16/2006 1:51:16 PM PST by VU4G10
No, I don't.
The GOP has declared itself officially tone-deaf to a large segment of those who voted for them.
They must think there is no price to pay for that.
They are wrong.
The "discussion" was with the lobbyists and the White House. Big leagues, hard ball.
Freeped and bumped.
Before Frist closed the Senate tonight, he introduced S.2454 - Border Control. He also introduced a cloture motion on the bill. He indicated that the cloture vote will happen on Tuesday Morning, March 28th, unless an agreement is reached to reschedule.
The alternative as I see it? I always vote for the most conservative candidate in the primaries and for the GOP nominee in the election.
I try to make my opinions known to my elected officials and support your post 100% regarding all of us contacting our senators.
http://www.theamericanresistance.com/articles/art2004jan04.html
Myths and lies of illegal immigration
1. It is NOT racist to call these people "illegal aliens" In fact, "illegal aliens" is the only term used in federal laws and regulations to describe criminals (and they ARE criminals) who come into our country illegally. They are not illegal immigrants, not undocumented immigrants, not migrant workers, and not day laborers - they're ILLEGAL ALIENS.
2. Mexico is NOT a poor country. It has the fifth richest economy in the world, and by sending its teeming masses to our country, that status keeps on rising. Mexico has more resources per square mile than the U.S. and plenty of money to take care of its own people. Why should the taxpayers of this country subsidize Mexico's corruption?
3. Illegal aliens are NOT necessarily coming here to work. Lou Dobbs recently reported that 33 percent of our prison population is now comprised of non-citizens. Plus, 36 to 42 percent of illegal aliens are on welfare. So, for a good proportion of these people, the American dream is crime and welfare, not coming here to work.
4. Illegal aliens are NOT doing work Americans won't do. What jobs won't Americans do? In most states, Americans still clean their own houses, do their own landscaping, clean hotel rooms, work in restaurants and fast food places, paint houses, DO CONSTRUCTION WORK, work in airports, etc. - just like we have the past 200 years before "our" government allowed these people to invade our country. There are 18 million Americans who cannot find a job, so illegal aliens who are coming here to work do so at peril to American workers.
5. Illegal aliens absolutely do not contribute more than they cost. Certainly the millions in prison and on welfare aren't contributing a dime to our economy, and the ones who are working often are paid in cash with no deductions for taxes at all. The ones who use fraudulent social security numbers and qualify to pay taxes and social security have so many deductions for dependents that they pay little if any taxes. We have seen them pay less than $100 in taxes and get back $4,000 refunds (thanks to earned income tax credits and multiple dependents). The Center for Immigration Studies estimates that the average Mexican illegal alien costs U.S. taxpayers a whopping $55,000 each. Some bargain, eh?
6. The economy does NOT depend on illegal aliens. Sure, greedy CEOs (making $50 to $150 MILLION a year) and business owners depend on illegal aliens, but due to #3, #4 and #5 above, the only thing illegal aliens are contributing to is the collapse of our economy and making the rich richer.
7. Without illegal aliens, the price of agricultural products and other goods and services will NOT soar. The definitive study on this subject is the University of Iowa's "How Much Is That Tomato?" The study concludes that 'since labor is such a small component of the end-price of agricultural products (which includes price to the growers, transportation costs, processing /storage costs, grocers' profit, etc.), using minimum wage workers instead of illegal aliens would increase prices of agricultural products by approximately 3 percent in the summer and 4 percent in the winter ... hardly the making of $10 heads of lettuce, $25 hamburgers, $1,000 per night Days Inn hotel rooms like the pro-illegal alien lobby claims.
8. Consumers are NOT benefiting from lower labor costs. Again, it's CEOs and business owners who benefit from taxpayer subsidies for their illegal alien workers. The Big Three automakers say they moved so many jobs to Mexico because their labor costs are 80 percent less than in America. Anybody notice the price of new cars spiraling downward under NAFTA?
AGREED
Question, if this scam goes through and people don't sign up and are caught here illegally, what happens?
Under pressure to produce broad immigration reform legislation by the end of the month, a U.S. Senate panel on Thursday neared agreement on a proposal that would give some of the 12 million illegal aliens living in the country an opportunity to earn citizenship.
If this passes and is signed into law, the Repulocrats just sold out millions of Americans. They can kiss my votes and my a$$ goodbye.
They'll call them "illegitimate undocumented immigrants" and they will be eligible for 401K plans???
I don't quite see what's wrong with the fine concept. Fine them 2000 dollars. That's punishment for breaking the law and entering the country. What was preferred? A steeper fine? They have a job and they got caught and paid their fine. Then they have to endure the same wait for citizenship as any other applicant.
Why is this bad? Is a more severe punishment preferred? If you deport and fine nothing, that does not inflict any punishment for breaking the law. They just take all their savings with them. A fine does. Isn't this better than deportation? Do you want a higher fine? How much?
Those dang Senators are't serious. What noise other then for amnesty have we heard out of them so far?
Maybe if we bark loud enough, they'll all go moo.
Or maybe they're not even as smart as cows.
What the heck is it going to take for our politicians to realize that you can't have your socialist state and free borders too?
What a road to disaster. Either one by itself.
Id like to ask you about The Penis mightier, Trebek.
I think a small scale trial of this plan should be tried first to see how it does.
I think is would only be fitting is Massachusetts would be the first state to adopt this.
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