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Senators near compromise on immigration reform (HERE IT COMES)
REUTERS ^ | 16 March 2006 | Donna Smith

Posted on 03/16/2006 1:51:16 PM PST by VU4G10

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To: Wasanother
Plug the hole first-then bail the water out.
121 posted on 03/16/2006 2:41:21 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: sheana
Just saying, we live with it daily here and the SOB politicans just don't give a rat's butt.

I understand what you're saying. And it's the same here - but I stay away from that part of town. Of course, the crime filters over to our side as well, but it's not downright dangerous - yet. Have you thought about moving?

And I don't think the part about having an english-speaking minority in any U.S. town is minor - our American culture is gone, replaced with a 3rd world culture. It is effecting the educational quality of my son's schools and the job choices for this proud mono-lingual.
122 posted on 03/16/2006 2:41:54 PM PST by Serenissima Venezia (U.S. a 3rd world soon: not educating enough scientists/engineers and being invaded by illegals)
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To: Wasanother
As much as I hate amnesty or any other name for it, can anyone give the best solution for ridding 15 million illegals already here?

First step is to cut off the inflow. That's why we need to concentrate on enforcement first. Pushing for amnesty now is putting the cart before the horse (and I think the pushers know it).

123 posted on 03/16/2006 2:42:08 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: VU4G10

If my Senators vote for this, they will never get another vote from me, ever.


124 posted on 03/16/2006 2:42:30 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: inquest
First step is to cut off the inflow...

Exactly. Whatever it takes.

125 posted on 03/16/2006 2:43:41 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: Little Ray

People on both sides confuse Corporate Socialists with Capitalists. Big difference.


126 posted on 03/16/2006 2:43:57 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Wasanother

1. Demand that the military be used to close the borders!
2. Demand the enforcement of ALL immigration laws!
3. Require immediate deportation of ALL illegal entries and visa overstays in our custody.
4. Require ALL employers to use the Social Security
5. Verification System for ALL hires.
6. Deny ALL illegal alien births 'automatic citizenship.'
7. Deny ALL illegal aliens a FREE K-12 education.
8. Deny ALL illegal aliens ANY and ALL 'public benefits.'
9. Deny ALL illegal aliens driver's licenses and in-state college tuition.
10. Deny ALL illegal aliens FREE emergency medical care.
11. Verify ALL voter's citizenship, before permission to vote.

Pretty simple really. We don't even need a wall. If all those things were done they would self deport and quit coming.


127 posted on 03/16/2006 2:44:07 PM PST by sheana
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To: Reagan Man

A road to citizenship? Gasp. The horrors of that. /sarc


128 posted on 03/16/2006 2:44:28 PM PST by Peach
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To: savedbygrace

I think your Oklahoma Senators are safe without your vote.


129 posted on 03/16/2006 2:44:37 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: Dog

If the Republicans vote this thing in, they will lose the majority. That's my opinion, anyway.


130 posted on 03/16/2006 2:45:03 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Serenissima Venezia

yes we are leaving Calif. next year....Hawaii. They are liberal there but I guess the illegals can't swim that far. ;)


131 posted on 03/16/2006 2:46:00 PM PST by sheana
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To: savedbygrace

I am assuming from another post that you are from Oklahoma? I think we can count on Dr. Coburn to be against this, we may have to work on Inhofe. And I think most Oklahoma's feel the same way we do, so yes, our votes, could affect them.


132 posted on 03/16/2006 2:46:17 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: VU4G10
When I was little,I remember my stepfather was watching the news.When the politicians came on,he called them whores.When I asked him what he meant,he replied,they all sleep together.Things haven't changed much and that was a long time ago.
133 posted on 03/16/2006 2:47:26 PM PST by xarmydog
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To: savedbygrace

To whom? To the democrats who will vote almost unanimously for it?


134 posted on 03/16/2006 2:47:46 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: inquest

"Pushing for amnesty now is putting the cart before the horse (and I think the pushers know it)."
>>>>>>>..........................
waiting for the $2000 federal Loan programs to assist the illegals in paying the registration fee..
waiting for the grandfather clause that allows all immediate family members to be add ons without having to apply themselves.
If this does not make the American public raise up ..we are lost, time to move on.


135 posted on 03/16/2006 2:47:58 PM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: TomGuy
Senator, we know they aren't going back in six years, so, yes, Senator, it IS amnesty. You are just not calling it amnesty.

Exactly! They all know that none of these illegals will actually pack up and leave in six years. This arrangement is wrapped in such dishonesty it's incredible.

136 posted on 03/16/2006 2:48:33 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: VU4G10
Kennedy told the committee the proposal was not an amnesty. People seeking legal status would have to pay a $2,000 fine, apply for a six-year temporary status, have a job, pay taxes, learn English and show an understanding of U.S. government.

BS...If you have to explain that it isn't amnesty then it must have such convoluted language that it appears to be amnesty. Or it is amnesty. How hard is it to say, "we will close the borders to illegals, we will enforce it, you will be stopped" to illegals?

137 posted on 03/16/2006 2:49:24 PM PST by hattend (Keep Drinking Until Nagin Makes Sense)
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To: sheana

We can agree that everything on you list is the solution, which it is, but getting all "politicians" to agree on all 11 of your points, Republican, Rats, Conservative, Liberals, Communist, Socialist, etc..., will not happen in our lifetime so there has to be a point one, seal the borders and then step 2, step 3, etc...


138 posted on 03/16/2006 2:50:35 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: VU4G10
Nice to know Kennedy, McCain and Dubya are ALL on the same page on this BS....

Some "leadership."

139 posted on 03/16/2006 2:50:57 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: dirtboy
My prediction - at least one and probably two new political parties for 2008

Quickest way for fools to let the democRATS to get the whitehouse back in 2008.

140 posted on 03/16/2006 2:51:59 PM PST by Mogollon
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