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Army Still Trips Over Cover-Up
Atlanta Journal-Constitution (Posted by Military.com) ^
| March 16, 2006
| Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Posted on 03/16/2006 6:37:49 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet
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To: jim35
What this reminds me of more than anything is the death of Christa McAuliffe on the space shuttle. So much publicity surrounded her being on the Challenger that it made the whole tragedy far worse when she was killed. After all, she was just a teacher, not a NASA professional. We entrusted her to NASA and they got her killed.
Tillman has a similiar story. This was such a dreary end to a fairy tale that an unusual amount of pressure must have been on the Army to give it a "happy" heroic ending. It just couldn't end any other way. Nothing sounds like incompetence greater than "friendly-fire death." I'm sure that was just intolerable to the Army. I don't support the route they took because it ended up with them looking like screw-ups AND liars. Sad story.
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posted on
03/16/2006 7:37:11 AM PST
by
Belasarius
(Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
To: Tulsa Ramjet
There was also Private Lynch the lady Rambo shooting. The first casualty in war is truth. It's what happens when political chickenhawks control the military.
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posted on
03/16/2006 7:38:43 AM PST
by
ex-snook
(God of the Universe, God of Creation, God of Love, thank you for life.)
To: Tulsa Ramjet
The truth, though, was that Tillman had been killed by three bullets to the forehead fired by American soldiers in a friendly fire accident, and Army officials knew it immediately. Officers on the scene knew it, which may be why they ordered that Tillman's body armor and uniform be burned. Abizaid knew it when he made those comments to the press a week after Tillman's death. The officers who drafted the false Silver Star citation knew it, too., These are mere assertions by an AJC reporter with no backup. I doubt this is fact.
To: ex-snook
There was also Private Lynch the lady Rambo shooting. The first casualty in war is truth. It's what happens when political chickenhawks control the military. The Jessica as "Rambo" story came from the media. Not the Pentagon. Rumsfeld was asked several times about the incident. He said we don't know the facts. And has warned reporters many times, to no avail, that first reports are usually wrong.
To: Tulsa Ramjet; jim35
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posted on
03/16/2006 8:04:00 AM PST
by
indcons
(The MSM - Mainstream Slime Merchants)
To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
"The Jessica as "Rambo" story came from the media. Not the Pentagon. Rumsfeld was asked several times about the incident. He said we don't know the facts."Yep, that sounds like Rumsfeld.
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posted on
03/16/2006 8:05:39 AM PST
by
ex-snook
(God of the Universe, God of Creation, God of Love, thank you for life.)
To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
"These are mere assertions by an AJC reporter with no backup."
You may be right. He doesn't cite specifics. We shall see how the fourth investigation pans out.
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posted on
03/16/2006 8:10:43 AM PST
by
Tulsa Ramjet
("If not now, when?")
To: Tulsa Ramjet
A worthless editorial. Never are the facts of Tillman's death explained in detail, and without that no reasonable person can make a judgment about what happened.
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posted on
03/16/2006 8:16:30 AM PST
by
beckett
(Amor Fati)
To: jim35; Tulsa Ramjet
OK, they lied. So what?
I'm always amazed at how willing some people are to throw ethics out the window, if they think they can get a political gain.
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posted on
03/16/2006 8:18:54 AM PST
by
highball
(Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
"AJC reporter with no backup. I doubt this is fact." Having lived in Atlanta once upon a time, and reading the AJC due to the fact the NET hadn't come into play like it is today, I can almost guarantee you the AJC is 180 degrees off. I would not put much stock in anything they print.
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posted on
03/16/2006 8:36:17 AM PST
by
DeaconRed
(IF . . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
To: Tulsa Ramjet
A couple of other notes.... take it for what it's worth:
I think Abizaid was "Leaning Forward" to try and get the award out....not cover it up
Abizaid served in both 1/75 and 2/75 Rangers
Tillman's LT was a cadet at West Point (1st Captain)... while Abizaid was the Commandant of Cadets. Tillman's LTs published account of the incident is brutally honest.
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posted on
03/16/2006 8:56:31 AM PST
by
Yasotay
To: Yasotay
"Tillman's LTs published account of the incident is brutally honest"
Where can I read it?
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posted on
03/16/2006 9:02:17 AM PST
by
Tulsa Ramjet
("If not now, when?")
To: Tulsa Ramjet
Here is Part 2 of the Washington Post Article. You should be able to find Part 1. The SFgate also did the article but I REALLY don't like them....
Link
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posted on
03/16/2006 9:46:43 AM PST
by
Yasotay
To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
I didn't know that he was killed by three shots to the forehead.If that's true it might explain the reason for the army's fake story of his death.It would be more difficult to explain a death like this than one that involved an errant bomb or friendly fire from a helicopter.In the end it really doesn't matter because every friendly fire death is a tragedy.
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posted on
03/16/2006 10:03:56 AM PST
by
rdcorso
(There Is No Such Thing As A Neutral Person During A War With Radical Islam.)
To: Yasotay
"Here is Part 2 of the Washington Post Article. You should be able to find Part 1. The SFgate also did the article but I REALLY don't like them...."
A very indepth article. sounds like the army PR wanted something really good to come out of a bad accident. which is what it apparently was. His service was not a waste. Only tragic. There are other Friendly Fire soldiers that also are tragic. New husbands, new fathers, but they weren't high-profile, selfless pro athletes. But their sacrifice is just as poignant. God bless them all.
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posted on
03/16/2006 12:28:29 PM PST
by
Tulsa Ramjet
("If not now, when?")
To: Tulsa Ramjet
Blue on Blue sucks .... you are right .... tragic and not a waste. I hope something good comes out of it and may God Bless Them All. RLTW.
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posted on
03/16/2006 1:22:07 PM PST
by
Yasotay
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