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For Elderly, Antidepressants May Trump Psychotherapy
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| March 16, 2006
| BENEDICT CAREY
Posted on 03/15/2006 9:41:06 PM PST by neverdem
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To: WaterDragon
Thanks for a useful post.
I agree that medication can be poorly used.
It is the clinical end I am concerned about.
The effects of agitated depression (for instance) in the elderly is often fatal.
A part of the problem is that 'depression' is not any one thing but like arthritis has many manifestations.
I am a psychiatric nurse who never ever thought I would suffer form depression. After radical surgery for kidney tumor I found myself somewhere worse than the surgery ever took me. The residue is with me today but I fight against it with the help of therapy and drugs. I have still managed to start my own company and continue to pastor a small church. Much of the time I feel like crap due to mild depression - but that I cope with. Heck we've all got something to put up with. But the severity of the original attack was truly astounding and devastating. I do not ask for sympathy just that the condition is acknowledged as real and serious.
Kind regards,
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03/16/2006 4:58:35 AM PST
by
vimto
("Born and educated in this country, I glory in the name of Briton." King George III)
To: thoughtomator
Thanks for clearing that up - I'm in the UK and couldn't get your drift. Now I can.
There are to issues.
The first is - is clinical depression a serious and often fatal condition. Answer - yes.
The second is - should the government pay for it's treatment answer - ? for you clearly no, and that is honorable.
But I would urge you not to rubbish the former in order to justify the latter.
Kind regards as always
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03/16/2006 5:02:26 AM PST
by
vimto
("Born and educated in this country, I glory in the name of Briton." King George III)
To: neverdem
Thanks for the ping. Interesting.
Two people very close to me used antidepressants. One committed suicide and the other is much healthier mentally since she has been off of them. I do not know anyone else who takes them on a daily basis.
I hope they help some people. My direct contact sample size is insignificant.
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posted on
03/16/2006 5:16:39 AM PST
by
PGalt
To: vimto
With regards to depression itself, I have found that sympathy can be a driver and an enabler of depression... because it is pleasurable to be sympathized with, giving sympathy actually encourages the continuation of depressive behavior.
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posted on
03/16/2006 5:18:10 AM PST
by
thoughtomator
(Nobody would have cared if the UAE wanted to buy Macy's...)
To: Centurion2000
Going "cold turkey" is a measure of one's fortitude. ;-)
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posted on
03/16/2006 5:27:25 AM PST
by
verity
(The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
To: thoughtomator
I think you are right.
please note I said I do not want sympathy just an acknowledgment of the reality of the condition. And yes there are people who claim to be depressed but are not - and that makes it harder for people like me to get a voice heard.
I have a little personal crusade to get the profile of depression raised.
warm regards.
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posted on
03/16/2006 5:28:08 AM PST
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vimto
("Born and educated in this country, I glory in the name of Briton." King George III)
To: vimto
But I would urge you not to rubbish the former in order to justify the latter.Said only in the way a Brit could say it! Glad you have had such a success.
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posted on
03/16/2006 12:33:22 PM PST
by
technochick99
( Firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
To: thoughtomator
With regards to depression itself, I have found that sympathy can be a driver and an enabler of depression...Your insights are certainly worth the price.
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03/16/2006 12:35:06 PM PST
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technochick99
( Firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
To: technochick99
that made me giggle...
kind regards,
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03/16/2006 1:48:24 PM PST
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vimto
("Born and educated in this country, I glory in the name of Briton." King George III)
To: goodnesswins
Vitamin D!!!!Right on. Vitamin D, walnuts, and exercise.
To: thoughtomator
Grandkids are better than prozac. Pets, too. Having something to do and knowing that you are loved is better than any drug.
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03/16/2006 5:57:58 PM PST
by
Alouette
(Psalms of the Day: 79-82)
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