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McCain Screams at 9/11 Families for a Security America Member for Opposing his Illegal Amnesty Bill
9/11 Families for a Secure America ^ | 15 March 2005 | Peter Gadiel

Posted on 03/15/2006 5:16:58 PM PST by Spiff

John McCain SCREAMS AT 9/11 FSA MEMBERS FOR OPPOSING HIS BILL TO GIVE AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS

McCain CHALLENGES PETER GADIEL TO DEBATE HIM IN ARIZONA . GADIEL ACCEPTS CHALLENGE

ENCOUNTER WITH JOHN McCAIN:

At the end of a week of lobbying, we accidentally met Sen. John McCain just outside the Russell Senate Office Building . Joan, Bruce and I approached him identified ourselves as 9/11 family members. We told him we opposed his amnesty bill and of our promise to hold accountable members of Congress who vote for it for the acts of violence that result. The following conversation resulted:

McCain looked at Joan and said : “You're kidding, aren't you?”

Joan Molinaro : “No, we're not kidding.”

At this, McCain started screaming and pointed his finger in our faces: “ After all I've done for you people! I welcome you to come to my state. I'll debate the issue with you. The people of Arizona trust me…I got 77% of the vote last year. Who do you think they'll believe?”

Peter Gadiel : “ Yeah sure. You won that race by getting 85 % of your money from out of state.”

McCain : “It's people like you who make my job so hard. I got 77% of the vote…."

Gadiel: "Oh sure, but you needed What kind of confidence is that?"

By this time, Joan and Peter were turning their backs to McCain, and he started to come after them. But Bruce saw a guard from the Russell Building come out, take McCain by the arm and pull him inside the building.

9/11 FSA accepts Senator McCain's challenge to debate him on the issue of illegal immigration.

Sen. Lindsay Graham admits that cheap labor, especially the cheap greens fees at golf courses, are more important than enforcing the law.

9/11 FSA members Joan Molinaro, Bruce De Cell, Grace Godshalk and Peter Gadiel lobbied the Senate during the week of February 27 to March 3. Part of the time we were accompanied by Bill Buchanan, Bob Shoemaker, Helen Pfalsgraf and Rick Rio of Virginia 's very effective immigration reform group, ANCIR. Our purpose was to oppose bills that would reward illegal aliens by granting them amnesty and the right to become citizens of the United States.

The worst amnesty bills are S. 1033 sponsored by Sens. McCain and Kennedy, and the as yet unnumbered bill sponsored by Sen. Arlen Specter.

We had a lengthy appointment with one Senator and met briefly with a second. In addition, we had meetings with staff members representing twelve other Senators.

We were able to attend a portion of the Senate Judiciary Committee's discussion of illegal immigration in the “markup” session of Thursday March 2. During this meeting Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) disgraced himself by showing contempt for of all those who have been killed or injured by illegal aliens. Graham said he plays golf, that most of the courses he plays on use illegal alien labor, and that he, like many other Americans is happy to benefit from that cheap labor. Joan, Bruce and I were appalled that a United States Senator would admit that he thinks lower greens fees are more important than the lives of those he claims to represent. During the hearing, Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis) issued a press release endorsing the McCain-Kennedy amnesty.

The 9/11 FSA position is this: if an amnesty passes, among the 11,000,000 to 20,000,000 recipients of amnesty there will inevitably be violent felons and terrorists. (For example, one of the participants in the 1993 WTC bombing had received amnesty in 1986. Other recipients of the ‘86 amnesty have been involved in crimes such as the killings outside CIA headquarters.) We told the staffs of Feingold, Graham and other amnesty supporters that if an amnesty bill is passed, when violent criminal or terrorist acts are committed by those receiving amnesty, 9/11 FSA will make sure that the people in their states know that Graham, Feingold, et al, made those crimes possible by allowing the perpetrators to stay in the USA.

This blunt approach has been made necessary by the failure of many members of the Senate to overcome their reliance on contributions made by the members of the US Chamber of Commerce, National Association of Manufacturers and other employers of illegals; their failure to ignore the expensive lobbying campaigns of LaRaza, the ACLU, the United Methodist Church, George Soros, and so on.

Meeting with Administration officials

Since the 9/11 attacks, 9/11 FSA has several times asked for meetings with representatives of the Bush Administration. These requests were ignored. Then, in December we were called by a Bush official who asked us to meet with her and did so in January. This was very useful and we were invited to a second meeting, this time with a person holding a senior position in the Administration. This occurred immediately after our outdoor visit with Sen. McCain, and was much friendlier.

We have no delusions that 9/11 FSA is now a Washington powerhouse, but we think that we have achieved a minor degree of influence. The explosive response of McCain and the sudden interest on the part of Administration officials may be indications of our voice being heard and listened to by elected officials and policy makers.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911families; aliens; amnesty; arizona; bordersecurity; criminalinvaders; goldcard; hispandering; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; manchuriancandidate; rino; scamnesty
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To: ConsentofGoverned; Travis McGee; HiJinx; Spiff; Czar; Grampa Dave; DoughtyOne; PhilDragoo; Liz; ...


Illegal aliens are 30%+ in federal prisons.


What a great resume.


Want a comparison?


White male perpetrators of murder in the USA are under 1/100,000 population - less then Japan, England, France, Germany, Italy, etc

DC: Black teenagers murder rate: 225/100,000 population (same as in Rowanda & El Salvador during the worst slaughters!) - many in DC are illegal aliens......


The USA murder rate is about 5/100,000 population


Now if you check the FBI-DOJ Uniform Crime Report you will find:

white
black
asian
other
unknown

No hispanics
No illegal aliens

(It would not be "PC"!)

But over 30% in US federal prisons are illegal aliens that are not even supposed to be in the USA - and most crimes they commit are never solved so the % of violent crimes - murder, rape, kidnapping, assault, robbery - is much higher

For instance: 95% of all warrants for violent crimes in LA are for illegal aliens - Sources: Heather McDonald - Manhattan Institute, FBI, LAPD, USDOJ


That means that what you are told by the MSM (actually not told!) is that illegal aliens are pumping up the numbers of legal resident American blacks and of spanish blood

US minorities do indeed commit more violent crimes - but not nearly as many as the liberals would have you believe

Deduct the illegal aliens and their %s will drop dramtically



















81 posted on 03/15/2006 6:28:25 PM PST by devolve (<center> <img src="http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/c105/007access/911A.gif" border="20"> </center>)
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To: SandRat

Perfect!


82 posted on 03/15/2006 6:29:06 PM PST by onedoug
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To: raybbr
Every time I see McCain I think of this guy:


83 posted on 03/15/2006 6:29:28 PM PST by Graymatter (Former walking encyclopedia. My kids turned me into an eightball.)
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To: ClaireSolt

How can you screen people with five names, phony docs, no real lineage to document, and have already succesfully used 10 aliases???


84 posted on 03/15/2006 6:31:19 PM PST by chris1
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To: Spiff; Borax Queen

His handlers need to snap a leash and a muzzle on him.


85 posted on 03/15/2006 6:31:37 PM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: King Prout
I had just posted as late as of Sunday night that McCain had
this problem with his temper.
In my response I had said, we in the GOP need a person with a cooler head, I was referencing to George Allen as my pick for 08. I had no idea McCain would implode this soon.
86 posted on 03/15/2006 6:31:51 PM PST by buck61 (luv6060)
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To: devolve

Illegal aliens pose the greatest danger to this country.


87 posted on 03/15/2006 6:32:46 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3

Its not even danger. Unlike past immigrants, they seem much more content with calling their country of origin "my ccountry" and never will consider America as either a great or deserving country.


88 posted on 03/15/2006 6:35:28 PM PST by chris1
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Please call them INVADERS!


President Bush has been great on most things except for our border.
He has been great on the war on terrorists.
But on the border he is a gross failure.
He acted fast and correct on the 3,000+ people murdered at the world trade center.
He ignores the many rapes, murders and robberies which might be larger than the murders and money loss at the world trade center.
More Americans are abducted on the border of Mexico than in Iraq!

Start building the fence.

It should be made a felony for Criminals who overstay their visas and Invaders.

I believe we should give amnesty to these poor CRIMINALS or INVADERS.
This should be a 2 week amnesty to get the heck out of our Country.
The ones who ignore this amnesty should be buried in a tent city jail and fined $10,000 or buried elsewhere.
All aiders and abettors of these CRIMINALS or INVADERS should get 1 year in a tent city jail and a $10,000 fine for each CRIMINAL aided.
Those in government should be the first ones charged.


89 posted on 03/15/2006 6:38:25 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the rear, or a Fool from any side.”)
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To: Spiff

Like I said long ago, McCain is unstable.


90 posted on 03/15/2006 6:41:33 PM PST by Carolinamom (I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves. ---Ronald Reagan)
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To: Clemenza

Seriously.

When I first read this post, I thought it was a Scrappleface or Onion style article.

But this really happened?

Yeesh, what a monster!


91 posted on 03/15/2006 6:42:54 PM PST by Emmet Fitzhume (Democrats need adult supervision at all times.)
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To: Spiff

We'll look forward to the authenicated transcript of your encounter with the senator from Arizona. tomorrow maybe?


92 posted on 03/15/2006 6:45:49 PM PST by billhilly (The Democrat symbol is no longer the donkey, it's a strait Jacket.)
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To: billhilly
We'll look forward to the authenicated transcript of your encounter with the senator from Arizona. tomorrow maybe?

Riiiight. Kinda like the authenticated transcript of his vicious attacks on POW/MIA families years ago that he released.

93 posted on 03/15/2006 6:47:24 PM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff

McNasty was an as*hole in the Navy and he is a total clown now. If he gets our nomination I won't be voting. I can't believe that anyone who joins forces with Feingold to take away our 1st amendment rights has the integrity to represent either party.


94 posted on 03/15/2006 6:49:35 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: Spiff
I am counting the days till 208 when I can bust my ass and see to it that Lindsee Graham becomes a one term Senator. As McCain's butt boy, he is a disgrace to conservatives.
95 posted on 03/15/2006 6:51:48 PM PST by upchuck (Wikipedia.com - the most unbelievable web site in the world.)
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To: EagleUSA
"McCain is dangerous. His own personal mental instability combined with the generic Washington elitism, has really screwed up his head.McCain is dangerous. His own personal mental instability combined with the generic Washington elitism, has really screwed up his head."

McLame lost me 10 years ago. In my eye he is totally insane and could present a threat to people. He goes off like a rocket at small provocation.
96 posted on 03/15/2006 6:53:26 PM PST by lawdude (2006 Republican bumper sticker : Vote Republican: We are NOT democrats!)
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To: Spiff; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
Click to see other threads related to illegal aliens in America
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Wow! Looks like a total McCain Meltdown is right around the corner.

No amnesty, John. You've made your bed with Ted, now lie in it.

97 posted on 03/15/2006 6:53:42 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran; chris1; Dante3; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; ...
Some good tough comments on this thread

Keep it up



98 posted on 03/15/2006 6:55:08 PM PST by devolve (<center> <img src="http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c105/007access/911A.gif" border="20"> </center>)
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To: Spiff
I was going to pull up and post that photo. It is a must for this thread. Thanks for saving me the trouble and getting it up so close to the top of the thread.

Wouldn't hurt to add this one. There's something about McCain that makes me think of Cap'n Queeg. Gonna get chu.


99 posted on 03/15/2006 6:55:27 PM PST by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: Mo1
When reporters first called him, he was furious. Caught out in the open, the former fighter pilot let go with a barrage of cover fire. Sen. Hothead came out in all his glory.

''You're a liar,''' McCain snapped Sept. 29 when a Republic reporter asked him about business ties between his wife and Keating.

''That's the spouse's involvement, you idiot,'' McCain said later in the same conversation.

''You do understand English, don't you?''

He also belittled the reporters when they asked about his wife's ties to Keating.

''It's up to you to find that out, kids.''

And then he played the POW card.

''Even the Vietnamese didn't question my ethics,'' McCain said.

Keating related.

This shows McCain temper is nothing new. He also seems to use the POW card with the temper tantrum. McCain must never become president.

100 posted on 03/15/2006 6:57:21 PM PST by BARLF
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