McCain Screams at 9/11 Families for a Security America Member for Opposing his Illegal Amnesty Bill

9/11 Families for a Secure America ^ | 15 March 2005 | Peter Gadiel

[Spiff]

John McCain SCREAMS AT 9/11 FSA MEMBERS FOR OPPOSING HIS BILL TO GIVE AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS

McCain CHALLENGES PETER GADIEL TO DEBATE HIM IN ARIZONA . GADIEL ACCEPTS CHALLENGE

ENCOUNTER WITH JOHN McCAIN:

At the end of a week of lobbying, we accidentally met Sen. John McCain just outside the Russell Senate Office Building . Joan, Bruce and I approached him identified ourselves as 9/11 family members. We told him we opposed his amnesty bill and of our promise to hold accountable members of Congress who vote for it for the acts of violence that result. The following conversation resulted:

McCain looked at Joan and said : “You're kidding, aren't you?”

Joan Molinaro : “No, we're not kidding.”

At this, McCain started screaming and pointed his finger in our faces: “ After all I've done for you people! I welcome you to come to my state. I'll debate the issue with you. The people of Arizona trust me…I got 77% of the vote last year. Who do you think they'll believe?”

Peter Gadiel : “ Yeah sure. You won that race by getting 85 % of your money from out of state.”

McCain : “It's people like you who make my job so hard. I got 77% of the vote…."

Gadiel: "Oh sure, but you needed What kind of confidence is that?"

By this time, Joan and Peter were turning their backs to McCain, and he started to come after them. But Bruce saw a guard from the Russell Building come out, take McCain by the arm and pull him inside the building.

9/11 FSA accepts Senator McCain's challenge to debate him on the issue of illegal immigration.

Sen. Lindsay Graham admits that cheap labor, especially the cheap greens fees at golf courses, are more important than enforcing the law.

9/11 FSA members Joan Molinaro, Bruce De Cell, Grace Godshalk and Peter Gadiel lobbied the Senate during the week of February 27 to March 3. Part of the time we were accompanied by Bill Buchanan, Bob Shoemaker, Helen Pfalsgraf and Rick Rio of Virginia 's very effective immigration reform group, ANCIR. Our purpose was to oppose bills that would reward illegal aliens by granting them amnesty and the right to become citizens of the United States.

The worst amnesty bills are S. 1033 sponsored by Sens. McCain and Kennedy, and the as yet unnumbered bill sponsored by Sen. Arlen Specter.

We had a lengthy appointment with one Senator and met briefly with a second. In addition, we had meetings with staff members representing twelve other Senators.

We were able to attend a portion of the Senate Judiciary Committee's discussion of illegal immigration in the “markup” session of Thursday March 2. During this meeting Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) disgraced himself by showing contempt for of all those who have been killed or injured by illegal aliens. Graham said he plays golf, that most of the courses he plays on use illegal alien labor, and that he, like many other Americans is happy to benefit from that cheap labor. Joan, Bruce and I were appalled that a United States Senator would admit that he thinks lower greens fees are more important than the lives of those he claims to represent. During the hearing, Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis) issued a press release endorsing the McCain-Kennedy amnesty.

The 9/11 FSA position is this: if an amnesty passes, among the 11,000,000 to 20,000,000 recipients of amnesty there will inevitably be violent felons and terrorists. (For example, one of the participants in the 1993 WTC bombing had received amnesty in 1986. Other recipients of the ‘86 amnesty have been involved in crimes such as the killings outside CIA headquarters.) We told the staffs of Feingold, Graham and other amnesty supporters that if an amnesty bill is passed, when violent criminal or terrorist acts are committed by those receiving amnesty, 9/11 FSA will make sure that the people in their states know that Graham, Feingold, et al, made those crimes possible by allowing the perpetrators to stay in the USA.

This blunt approach has been made necessary by the failure of many members of the Senate to overcome their reliance on contributions made by the members of the US Chamber of Commerce, National Association of Manufacturers and other employers of illegals; their failure to ignore the expensive lobbying campaigns of LaRaza, the ACLU, the United Methodist Church, George Soros, and so on.

Meeting with Administration officials

Since the 9/11 attacks, 9/11 FSA has several times asked for meetings with representatives of the Bush Administration. These requests were ignored. Then, in December we were called by a Bush official who asked us to meet with her and did so in January. This was very useful and we were invited to a second meeting, this time with a person holding a senior position in the Administration. This occurred immediately after our outdoor visit with Sen. McCain, and was much friendlier.

We have no delusions that 9/11 FSA is now a Washington powerhouse, but we think that we have achieved a minor degree of influence. The explosive response of McCain and the sudden interest on the part of Administration officials may be indications of our voice being heard and listened to by elected officials and policy makers.

[archy]

I bet we could come up with more than were killed on 9/11 if we tried.

Start here.

Nah. It begins *here*.

[Toadman]

How about this: All illegals must register under some federal identity program.

All must be fingerprinted and entered in a worker database.

All must show a record of "paid" health insurance policy.

All must show appropriate, valid drivers license.

All must register all family members in the states.

All must pass some basic english speaking skills.

All must pass a bilateral crime database exchange shared between the U.S. and mexico to ferret out the criminals.

Sorry for taking so long to respond. I agree with your points above. I haven't heard much about Senator Coburn, but I'll review his past performance.

[Tulsa Ramjet]

"Sorry for taking so long to respond"

Whoops. Left out "All must have pre-paid, annual car insurance."

[ClaireSolt]

I wish people would spend half as much time working in their own cities to change sanctuary policies and other refusal to cooperate with feds. They can make a million laws in Washington and it won't do any good as long as illegals are safe in NYC and LA and South Florida cities. I see stories of some state and local officials beginning to cooperate, but most of you blame Bush instead of the state and local officials who have made this situation almost impossible by refusing to cooperate.

[Tulsa Ramjet]

http://coburn.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=About.Biography

[Ann Archy]

LOL!!

[GarySpFc]

Brownback is every bit as bad as McCain. Two friends of mine scheduled an appointment with him at least 4 weeks ago for last week to talk to him about illegal immigration. When they arrived he acted as if he had an important meeting come up, but he would chat with them on his way to the meeting. He stated, "I simply do not have it in my heart to send widows and orphans back to their countries."

[Osage Orange]

One problem is immediate catastrophic terrorism. The other is slow catastrophic immigration issues. Talk to Bush about the immigration issues. I think he has the terrorism issues covered, except for the portgate fiasco

Considering how porous the borders apparently are....I'm thinking we could very easily have a potential terror event..that's traced to our borders.

FWIW-

[Osage Orange]

That's one reason why he should never be President. You don't want a guy who blows his stack with his finger on the nuclear trigger. I can think of plenty of reasons to disqualify John McCain - and that's one. Another is his stand on illegal immigration.

Another reason would be his apparent magnetic attraction to microphones, and T.V. lights.

[dead]

after all the crimes, murders, robbery, rapes, auto accidents committed by these illegals and documented ad nauseum here on FR..you are either uninformed or very callus to the citizens of this country.

In fifteen minutes, every crime will be terrorism.

[pollyannaish]

I have said it before, I will say it again....all issues aside, McCain is unstable.

His approach to the (if true) was not the material Presidents are made of. Calm, rational, disarming...none of those are part of the real John McCain.

I fear the "after all I've done for you people" is.

If this turns out to be untrue, I will have to apologize.

[potlatch]

McCain's almost as bad as Hillary for having so many awful pictures of him taken.

[potlatch]

Now that's a cute way of posting! Wish we could put them into a 3 frame gif but can't since they already are animations! You know what I mean as these may be tables.

[Toadman]

I wish people would spend half as much time working in their own cities to change sanctuary policies and other refusal to cooperate with feds. They can make a million laws in Washington and it won't do any good as long as illegals are safe in NYC and LA and South Florida cities. I see stories of some state and local officials beginning to cooperate, but most of you blame Bush instead of the state and local officials who have made this situation almost impossible by refusing to cooperate.

I agree with you. The effort needs to be applied at all levels. Citizenry, City, County, State, and Federal.

I don't know if you were speaking in general, but I do not blame the President OR local officials. I admire and respect the President. I approve of the majority of his decisions. I don't believe there was a malevolent intent at any level of government allowing illegal immigration to have developed to it's current state.

Has it been just negligence (at one or all levels)? Perhaps, but I don't know enough yet to make an informed decision or form a reliable opinion.

[Toadman]

I wish people would spend half as much time working in their own cities to change sanctuary policies and other refusal to cooperate with feds. They can make a million laws in Washington and it won't do any good as long as illegals are safe in NYC and LA and South Florida cities. I see stories of some state and local officials beginning to cooperate, but most of you blame Bush instead of the state and local officials who have made this situation almost impossible by refusing to cooperate.

I agree with you. The effort needs to be applied at all levels. Citizenry, City, County, State, and Federal.

I don't know if you were speaking in general, but I do not blame the President OR local officials. I admire and respect the President. I approve of the majority of his decisions. I don't believe there was a malevolent intent at any level of government allowing illegal immigration to have developed to it's current state.

Has it been just negligence (at one or all levels)? Perhaps, but I don't know enough yet to make an informed decision or form a reliable opinion.

[Leatherneck_MT]

Mcain needs to retire, in fact he needs to be forcibly retired.

Send him home folks.

Along with anyone else that votes for this treasonous piece of legislation.

[pepperdog]

I think you're on to something. I do get them mixed up in my mind, probably because they are both borderline crazy.

[ClaireSolt]

Some argue that it has been purposeful. It is pretty common to hear democratic analysts say that the demographics are making the country more democratic as they claim the Hispanic vote. Bill O'Reilly has reported on the policies of the Ford foundation designed to create an underclass which would support a socialist revolution.
The laws were changed in the 70's and we are seeing the cumulative results.

[cricket]

We know he has tantrums and throws chairs. . .we know he does the 'expedient'; so WHY is McCain even 'going there' and why are ANY Bush folks, going with him?

[Spiff]

I found the source for one of your quotes from Michael Cutler at

Mike Cutler: It is currently estimated that some 30% of the federal inmate population is comprised of convicts who are identified as being "foreign born." When I was assigned to the Unified Intelligence Division of DEA in New York from 1988 to 1992 I compiled statistics concerning the nature of the defendants who were arrested by DEA and the DEA Task Force in New York. It was estimated that some 60% of the defendants arrested in New York City were identified as being "foreign born" while 30% of the defendants arrested nationwide were identified as being "foreign born." Those numbers remained constant for several years afterwards and I believe they would not be much different today.

Additionally, I have heard that some 90% of the arrest warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for aliens. I believe that it would not be hard to show that more than 3,000 murders per year can be attributed to illegal aliens in our country.

I found it at http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2005/11/michael-cutler-former-ins-agentdobbs.html

Any further information on this subject would be appreciated. I'm looking around for better statistics and sources on this specific fact.