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DEATH BLOW TO GUEST WORKER AMNESTY:GAO REPORT EXPOSES MASSIVE MISMANAGEMENT AND CORRUPTION
Los Angeles Chronicle ^ | 03/15/2006 | Tony Dolz

Posted on 03/15/2006 3:42:45 PM PST by Marine Inspector

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To: chris1
chris, you are including ME in your 'clown posse' attack, and I have never accused you of anything.

Just obey the rules of the forum, and cut out the backstabbing, OK?

141 posted on 03/15/2006 7:12:48 PM PST by ohioWfan (I don't apologize for supporting and defending our Commander in Chief in a time of war.)
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To: ohioWfan

How old are we????????


142 posted on 03/15/2006 7:13:13 PM PST by chris1
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To: chris1

You stirred the pot. Focusing on FR personalities, rather than issues and ideas and information, tends to generate flames. If one lives by the sword, one can die by the sword, despite protestations of "who, me?."


143 posted on 03/15/2006 7:14:41 PM PST by Torie
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To: chris1
No deal. I call trolls trolls. That's it. Stop making things up.

I'm leaving this conversation now to let the mods make a decision about your bad behavior.

I don't have time to waste on nonsense. Life is too good to worry about name-calling rule-breakers like you.

144 posted on 03/15/2006 7:16:04 PM PST by ohioWfan (I don't apologize for supporting and defending our Commander in Chief in a time of war.)
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To: ohioWfan

That reference was to a heavy metal band, I did not make it up.

This issue, to me, is the most pressing, distressing, and utterly incomprehnsible thing this gov't allows. I have seen it literally change the culture and society I, like you cherish most. However, unlike you, I do question seriously the motivations of those in DC, including the WH and the GOP.

Believe it or not, I have volunteered in many campaigns, etc etc, all for the GOP. However, that does not mean I will support what I perceive as selling out our country. It is worse since it is "our side" that is doing it, and the RATS are of course worse.

Where does that leave us??? Death by bullet in the back of the head or death by slow strangulation. I don't like being told by anyone I should be happy at least o pick my poison.


145 posted on 03/15/2006 7:17:40 PM PST by chris1
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To: DumpsterDiver; janetgreen

Thank you for the ping, DD!


146 posted on 03/15/2006 7:18:41 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: Torie

Ok, is it the end of the world? Geez!!!

To think of the deal made of this considering the names I have been called is really telling.

Its ok to call me names, question my motives, but god forbid I respond back.

Just so as to not make anyone lose sleep, I will ignore the offended parties.


147 posted on 03/15/2006 7:20:12 PM PST by chris1
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To: Marine Inspector

Herd em up and move them south.
Get the illegals out of our country NOW.


148 posted on 03/15/2006 7:22:38 PM PST by jerry639
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To: ohioWfan
Whoa. I didn't tell or order anyone to do anything today. I guess some didn't notice, but that post was tongue in cheek. It was posted to the Political Humor topic. I've gone back and added a single word edit to the original post hoping to clarify my intent which, of course, was to have a laugh at the expense of other side.

Somewhat heated debate and minor kidding or putdowns are commonplace and acceptable on FR. When the personal attacks get particularly vicious, nasty or violent we'll usually step in if called upon (unless there are no clean hands which is often the case).

149 posted on 03/15/2006 7:25:00 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: chris1

Here is just a friendly suggestion. When you want to bring in the folks with whom you disagree on a topic, why not ping them, and pose a question or two, and ask if they have any thoughts on the topic? Then get them to say something, and then pose some more questions, or things they might consider, and before you know it, you will have maybe scored some real points, and they maybe won't even know it! Cheers.


150 posted on 03/15/2006 7:34:24 PM PST by Torie
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To: Jim Robinson; chris1
Thank you, sir.

Now I feel like an idiot. :)

I'm still leaving this thread however, since chris personally and without provocation attacked me without pinging me.......which seems to happen a lot...... and has removed himself from the list of people worth spending time with.

I took your words seriously because I'm sick of being attacked, and needing to defend what shouldn't need to be defended (my tag line). And I have recently been warned by mods when I have done nothing even close to 'vicious, nasty or violent,' but was defending my character against assault.

Sorry to bother you. I really thought that the rule against personal attacks included calling another freeper a 'clown' for no reason at all. It's not the first time I've been wrong about how things work around here..........and it certainly won't be the last.

Thanks for the forum, and the privilege of posting here...........even though the rules seem to change like the Ohio weather.....

151 posted on 03/15/2006 7:37:04 PM PST by ohioWfan (I don't apologize for supporting and defending our Commander in Chief in a time of war.)
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To: chris1
Ok, is it the end of the world?

No it's not. There are some who cry a lot. Even if you are reasonably polite, just disagreeing with them earns you a "troll" label. We just have to deal with these emotional types from time to time.

152 posted on 03/15/2006 7:39:46 PM PST by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: Torie

See my response above. I was unaware of that rule. Some people really need to chill out and relax. I still consider almost every freeper 10000000000000% better than most other people and don't understand why a little roughing can't be see as such.


153 posted on 03/15/2006 7:41:48 PM PST by chris1
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To: ohioWfan; chris1; MNJohnnie

It was not my intent to cause grief. I am guilty of a recent scathing rant directed toward MNJohnnie, for which I apologize. The note today did help us recognize that proper decorum is important. Especially when we are discussing highly charged, and polarizing issues. Since it appears that the rest of the world looks here to FR for conservative opinions. Even if we are a little divided on some views.


154 posted on 03/15/2006 7:44:06 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: chris1
I never call in the marshals myself, ever, if it pertains to anything pertaining to me, and rarely otherwise. I was just giving you the benefit of my experience as to how to be somewhat more effective on this forum. In fact, one can make good relations with those with whom one disagrees on many, if not most issues. Trust me.
155 posted on 03/15/2006 7:45:03 PM PST by Torie
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To: EternalVigilance

Get a life and learn to read, you arrogant boob.

I am FOR Tony Dolz you dolt.


156 posted on 03/15/2006 7:46:34 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: Torie

Not for nothing, but it really is beneath an adult to call in a moderator rather than just politely ask to tone it down. Seriously, what are we, like 5 years old???


157 posted on 03/15/2006 7:47:31 PM PST by chris1
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To: ohioWfan

How about a group hug??????


158 posted on 03/15/2006 7:48:27 PM PST by chris1
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To: eskimo; chris1
There are some who cry a lot. Even if you are reasonably polite, just disagreeing with them earns you a "troll" label. We just have to deal with these emotional types from time to time.

"They can't take what they dish out."

159 posted on 03/15/2006 7:51:29 PM PST by La Enchiladita (United we stand, divided we fall.)
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To: Marine Inspector; HiJinx
re: the topic on hand... Thanks again MI for bringing us the news from the front lines.

This doesn't look good for Bush, McPain, or the rest of the pro-amnesty/guest worker gang.

Maybe the tide is turning? Just maybe??

160 posted on 03/15/2006 7:52:53 PM PST by kstewskis (don't get me started...)
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