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The Key Strategic Question
The Adventures of Chester ^ | March 02, 2006 | Josh Manchester

Posted on 03/15/2006 2:02:56 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4

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To: Jim Noble
The Three Conjectures
21 posted on 03/15/2006 6:19:26 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Jim Noble
an Army and Navy of sufficient size and power to conquer and reconstruct Arabia and Pakistan

What force structure would that look like?

22 posted on 03/15/2006 6:32:44 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
I do admire Wretchard tremendously.
23 posted on 03/15/2006 6:37:09 AM PST by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: F16Fighter

'Good Question' PING


24 posted on 03/15/2006 6:40:34 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: jocon307; Cannoneer No. 4
"The question for us to answer is: are we willing to submit, in any way, to Islam? The answer to that question is not no, it is HELL NO!"

Moreover, the disturbing answer is CLEARLY found in the Koran.

Cannoneer No. 4 is doing his/her best to convince us Islam, aka the "Religion of Peace," (ahem, parroting that other famous statesman) actually IS, while morphing all Muslims into political martyrs and and doe-eyed innocents EVER SINCE THE PORT UAE DEAL WAS SQUELCHED.

Barf.

25 posted on 03/15/2006 7:06:55 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: tonycavanagh
I hate told you so's.

I sure hate it for ya.

We will be in Iraq for a long time, but not at the troop strength we are now.

Depending on where you get your news, Phase IV is finally going right. Maybe some Americans paid attention to Brigadier Alwyn-Foster.

All these genocide advocates think their safety is worth putting making good soldiers SS-Oberschützen.

26 posted on 03/15/2006 7:22:22 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Interesting read, thank you.


27 posted on 03/15/2006 7:23:35 AM PST by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: corlorde

You're welcome.


28 posted on 03/15/2006 7:25:59 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: F16Fighter
Cannoneer No. 4 is doing his/her best to convince us Islam, aka the "Religion of Peace," (ahem, parroting that other famous statesman) actually IS, while morphing all Muslims into political martyrs and and doe-eyed innocents EVER SINCE THE PORT UAE DEAL WAS SQUELCHED.

I must be doing good work. People feel the need to lie about me.

Thanks for the motivation. I was getting tired of the subject.

29 posted on 03/15/2006 7:32:41 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: F16Fighter
Sure seem to be a lot of Islamic scholars on this board. They are as absolutely positive of what the Koran means as any mullah.
30 posted on 03/15/2006 7:36:01 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
I agree with the mindset that there are not "radical Islamists"! Recent history shows that "Moderate Islamists" (Like our Saudi brothers who secretly preach the killing of Jews & Christians) are just putting on a show to sell oil and stay in power.

The religion itself with the false prophet himself as it's spiritual leader IS the problem!

What do we think about a man who has his detractors killed and then "mercifully" FORGIVES the killers?

Personally I choose Jesus. WAY better prophet and role model. I believe He would call out the sins of the REAL infidels..and yes they would kill him again.

31 posted on 03/15/2006 7:40:36 AM PST by FixitGuy
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To: FixitGuy
So what's your solution?
32 posted on 03/15/2006 7:56:25 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
"I must be doing good work."

Indeed. EXCELLENT work. Congratulations. /sarc

33 posted on 03/15/2006 8:57:19 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
re :Depending on where you get your news, Phase IV is finally going right.

I didn't say it wasn't, what I said was that Phase IV was going to be the hardest and the longest part.

Also we still have a long journey ahead of us.

The reason we are starting to see some success i.e tribal groups turning against the foreign terrorists is because we concentrated on winning there hearts and minds while the terrorists were only interested in causing destruction and mayhem.

34 posted on 03/15/2006 9:02:07 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: F16Fighter
We aim to please.

You aim, too, please. Pilgrims with short muskets should stand closer to the target.

35 posted on 03/15/2006 9:34:22 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

All we do is repeat what any Saudi imam would say.

Any Muslim imam anywhere would tell you that the jihadis are saints and martyrs fighting the 'crusaders and zionists'. Muslim history has these repeating patterns of 'back to the desert' purists. The Almohads, the Almoravids, the Wahhabis, the Senussi, etc.

To believe in 'moderate Islam' for no higher reason than greed is the purest wishful thinking.


36 posted on 03/15/2006 4:37:30 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Sam the Sham
Which madrassa did you learn that it?
37 posted on 03/15/2006 6:21:09 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
"So what's your solution?"

My solution: 1.) As a People, a Nation and as a government policy, crack down on Muslims and stop making excuses for their incredibly bad behavior. A religion that preaches violence is not a religion, rather it is a cult and we should not be ashamed to confront its evil nature.

2.) Stop welcoming them to our universities and giving them a platform to spread more hate.

3.) Act as a nation at war, which we are. Not believing our enemies' sworn promise to destroy us makes us too vulnerable. We have a right and a duty to protect ourselves. Instead, we invite the enemy into our midst and attempt to show them how tolerant we are. Bad tactic.

4.) Make a distinction between U.S. Citizens and those who are here illegally and stop subsidizing their crime, and their drain on the system.

5.)Stop telegraphing our every move to defend ourselves, and really do it by tightening our borders, especially our immigration weaknesses.

6.) When someone commits a crime (such as running over students) make the punisnment swift and furious and don't photograph their smirking face and give them a platform to preach their insidious hate!

7.) Congress needs to be called to account for the way they behave.They are too busy crabbing among each other, peeing away our treasure on selfish pork projects attached to other legislation, they pay little attention to our defense on all levels. Each piece of legislation should cover only one subject, NO amendments about other items. (The Line Item Veto will NEVER pass because neither party can stand the thought of a President vetoing some silly selfish amendment they wish to cram up his butt!) The great two party system whom so many love is the biggest reason nothing gets done in Washington. It's adversarial rather than cooperative and most legislation is screwed up due to the egos of the legislators rather than what's right for the Nation.

It's hard to believe that less than five hundred and fifty people that "we've elected" can screw things up so horribly for the many millions of us who call this wonderful country HOME! We go dutifully to the polls each year and pretend we're in control. Sad!

Even knowing how wimpy we've become as a citizens, I think our Founding Fathers would be appalled at our willingness to endure such poor "leadership". The system is simply not responsive to the citizens any longer. (If one believes the "polls" maybe that's a good thing.)

I cringe at the notion that we might return the House and Senate to Democrat control just to experience a change from what we've got now. The guarantee they promise is that they have no better solutions nor the courage to effect reasonable or meaningful change.

8.) Don't know how to stop it but the screaming march to Globalism by the rich and powerful who control our money supply has caused us to embrace too many backward nations and ideologies that are not spiritually evolved enough to join with us. We may want their bodies and their labor and their potential purchasing power, but their problems and weird beliefs come along with that package. Too expensive!! Too idealistic!! We can't afford to partner up with everyone. We too easily have lost big chunks of our National Identity. Globalists hate Nationalism. I prefer call it National Pride and too much innocent young blood was shed for it to be bartered away so easily by rich, powerful people who "know best"

It's a nice fuzzy thought that if we are all tied to each other economically, that we will all learn to "get along". Ain't gonna happen. Can't be forced. People can seem to get along, but governments do a really crappy job for some reason.

(/Disjointed Rant, /Cynicism, /Frustration)

38 posted on 03/16/2006 10:21:11 AM PST by FixitGuy
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
What nonsense. What in the world does freedom in Islamic countries have to do with strategy?

There are plenty of unfree countries that are helping us with the War on Islamofacism, and plenty of free ones that aren't. France anyone?

Strategy and freedom are orthogonal.

39 posted on 03/21/2006 7:55:26 PM PST by curiosity
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To: jocon307

Excellent point.


40 posted on 03/22/2006 7:01:27 AM PST by gogeo
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