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John Stossel: Answering the Teachers Unions
Creator's Syndicate ^ | March 15, 2006 | John Stossel

Posted on 03/14/2006 10:09:54 PM PST by RWR8189

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1 posted on 03/14/2006 10:10:02 PM PST by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

John is my hero!
Bet that within 5 years, he`ll be right up their with Rush


2 posted on 03/14/2006 10:13:26 PM PST by bybybill (If the Rats win, we are doomed)
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To: RWR8189

Teachers' unions are very skillful at hiding behind the image of the hard working teacher and concealing how collective bargaining erodes effectiveness, retards income and benefits and rewards mediocrity.


3 posted on 03/14/2006 10:14:24 PM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: RWR8189

BTTT


4 posted on 03/14/2006 10:14:24 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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Take a gander at Union Leaders salarys (a few years ago) in Washington State.....

http://tpp.effwa.org/wea_salaries/salaries_2002-2003.php


5 posted on 03/14/2006 10:19:04 PM PST by goodnesswins ( "the left can only take power through deception." (and it seems Hillary & Company are the masters)
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To: RWR8189
"take money away from . . . our union leaders"

Hey stupid...that's the damn idea!

6 posted on 03/14/2006 10:21:06 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: RWR8189

I love John Stossel. I wonder how ABC puts up with him. You can bet that deep down they despise him.


7 posted on 03/14/2006 10:23:35 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: Joe Brower

John Stossel's taking on the Teachers' Union........PING


8 posted on 03/14/2006 10:28:21 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (Katherine Harris Still 'In It to Win It' .....Go here: http://www.electharris.org/)
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To: RWR8189

Big Stossel ping....he's great


9 posted on 03/14/2006 10:35:03 PM PST by Loud Mime ("Countdown" - A documentary about Keith Olbermann's dwindling IQ)
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To: StarFan

Stossel ping!


10 posted on 03/14/2006 10:36:05 PM PST by nutmeg (NEVER trust democRATs with our national security)
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To: RWR8189

Take them up on teaching. Yes, and if you really want to be gutsy try junior high in an inner city school.

My husband did that for 30 years. Had to break up fights, call in the police when someone showed up with a gun, almost broke his thumb in a locker handle as he was running to the office when a girl had a spontaneous abortion in his class, try to teach a 16 year old who could only write the letter N on a test, try to teach many in high school who could only read at a 3rd or 4th grade level. Midway in his teaching career, he transfered to another system, where he taught GED subjects. I asked him what kind of students he had there, he responded "juvenile delinquents, high school dropouts, court referrals, and middle aged mothers. It was an incredible drain on him and stress to our marriage.

I recommend that anyone who wants to enlighten the public on public education try walking in the teachers shoes for a while. There are certainly things wrong with the teachers union, but they wouldn't win representation if they did not encounter a lot wrong with school addinistrators.


11 posted on 03/14/2006 10:45:19 PM PST by gleeaikin (Question Authority)
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To: RWR8189

I'm disappointed with him. I still have this 20/20 on TIVO and will watch again, but it sounds like he's bought into the delusion that warehousing children must be improved rather than thrown into the dustbin of history.


12 posted on 03/14/2006 10:47:07 PM PST by IRememberElian
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Stossel kicks their ass again!

"...I didn't expect one of the speakers to be so blunt as to complain that school choice, whose value I had shown in the broadcast, would "take money away from . . . our union leaders" and a special program they had built to pay college tuition for a special-interest group within their union.

And I was especially surprised by one history lesson they taught me: "Public schools are what distinguish democracies from every other system in the world," and a country without strong public schools "lends itself to authoritarian thinking...."

Venal and stupid in two paragraphs!

The problem is that you can't get rid of the teachers union or bureaucracy or even limit their negative effects without competition. They don't want vouchers of other alternatives because the know they can't compete. They view their jobs as an entitlement and their leadership is an excuse machine for their failures.

13 posted on 03/14/2006 10:53:25 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: gleeaikin

What's wrong with public education is that its public. Walking in a public teachers shoes is pointless as the only solution is privatization.


14 posted on 03/14/2006 10:54:23 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: gleeaikin
My husband did that for 30 years. Had to break up fights, call in the police when someone showed up with a gun, almost broke his thumb in a locker handle as he was running to the office when a girl had a spontaneous abortion in his class, try to teach a 16 year old who could only write the letter N on a test, try to teach many in high school who could only read at a 3rd or 4th grade level. Midway in his teaching career, he transfered to another system, where he taught GED subjects. I asked him what kind of students he had there, he responded "juvenile delinquents, high school dropouts, court referrals, and middle aged mothers.

Right. The problems are social, not economic.

But if that's true, why do teachers claim paying them more money is going to change the situation?

15 posted on 03/14/2006 10:56:38 PM PST by mc6809e
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

High ratings for his shows???? Nah...ABC would not do that cheap shot...uh,uh,uh...yes,they would and do!! Hoorah for John Stossel exposing the idiot teachers union and the idiot teachers.


16 posted on 03/14/2006 11:00:07 PM PST by clooney4824
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I like John. I hate the public school system.

India, a nation which is just being born to a modern society, is 3/4's private. Their middle class is as big as our nation. While there still is a huge amount of poor people, there's incredible incentives for business to go there...why? Because their schools are producing far more engineers, while we're catering towards a market of service and high technology.

Ultimately we could lose out in many markets, because percentage wise we won't be able to create as many well-skilled workers. Our future depends on bright young people, and I think that should be one of the highest goals of the conservative-movement.

Free our schools.


17 posted on 03/14/2006 11:07:49 PM PST by Rick_Michael
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To: mc6809e

Why do teachers think paying them more money will...

For the amount of stress experienced, teachers are paid a lot less then most white collar workers doing work of similar difficulty. My husband chose to stay with it because as an ex Army type he was not a sit behind a desk and get a fat a$$ type of person. There was also the satisfaction in later years of his former troubled students coming back to school to show off their wives and children and thank him for appropriate butt kicking.

Nevertheless, teachers in this country do not get the RESPECT or support they get in countries like India, which are stealing our jobs because they are better educated and work cheaper.


18 posted on 03/14/2006 11:17:35 PM PST by gleeaikin (Question Authority)
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To: bybybill

John is a straight shooter, and he certainly has plenty of guts to do what he does in the fascist dinosaur newsrooms that have come to loathe Bernie Goldberg simply for exposing them.

By the way, I remember John posting here a few years back.
I don't remember his screen name, but I wonder if he still visits?


19 posted on 03/14/2006 11:19:11 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: gleeaikin
Schools should be for teaching, not solving all of societies ills. The asylums you are describing should have been closed. They are only wasting money that is supposed to be used for education.
20 posted on 03/14/2006 11:24:25 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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