Posted on 03/14/2006 3:26:11 PM PST by grandpa jones
A new theory to explain global warming was revealed at a meeting at the University of Leicester (UK) and is being considered for publication in the journal "Science First Hand". The controversial theory has nothing to do with burning fossil fuels and atmospheric carbon dioxide levels. According to Vladimir Shaidurov of the Russian Academy of Sciences, the apparent rise in average global temperature recorded by scientists over the last hundred years or so could be due to atmospheric changes that are not connected to human emissions of carbon dioxide from the burning of natural gas and oil. Shaidurov explained how changes in the amount of ice crystals at high altitude could damage the layer of thin, high altitude clouds found in the mesosphere that reduce the amount of warming solar radiation reaching the earth's surface
(Excerpt) Read more at physorg.com ...
Yes....and like nearly all climatology articles, I can't actually find an experiment. Modeling doesn't count.
Really. And what are climate changes for global warming based on? The temperature as recorded in various cities for the last 100 years....? Or computer models? Or both?
That is why the evidence that global warming is actually occurring is at best sparse. The temperature records are inaccurate and of very short duration. Trying to extrapolate 150 years of wildly inaccurate data over a time span of 3 billion years or so would be like me viewing a Polaroid picture of you at 3 P.M. in 1960 (assuming you're that old, of course) and trying to predict with confidence what you'll be wearing a 7 P.M. on April 3rd, 2031. Computer models are useless since there are too many parameters that are quite simply guesses (and many parameters that aren't even included in the models). Guesses are nothing more than personal prejudice of the scientist designing the model.
We agree. I thought Shaidurov had an interesting premise, I don't know as much about Russian researchers as you do, but I'm still open for debate. I'm sure I come across as naive, but I don't believe many scientists and scholars know as much about global warming as they pretend, and grant money will always be a factor.
Regards.
Aww, damn, man. Don't go bringing science into this global warming thing. ;-)
Yes, grant money is always a factor. Also, you can't trust reporting by the media for three reasons. First, of course, is their bias...they believe warming is occurring and that man is the cause. Second, they are woefully incompetent when trying to either understand science or to relay the information in a way that is both accessible to the layperson but still accurate. Third, very often, when they report on a study, they have only read the abstract or summary of the article. What is in that abstract is often more forceful or unequivocal than what you would find in the paper's discussion.
Well said.....perhaps I picked on the wrong "Academia"...LOL.
**Another favorite Lib Meme bites the dust.** Liberalism's errors never die. We will always hear from liberals that it is "settled science" that SUVs are causing global warming. Those who come up with science that disproves them will be known as "haters" and "right wing extremists."
Here's the link to the original report University of Leicester, Technical Report No. MA-05-15. The author is with the Institute of Computational Modeling of Siberian Branch of Russian Academy of Sciences, shidurov@icm.krasn.ru. Visited Leicester in April 2005.
If you look at the dramatic inventions and true theories that Russians have put up over the last 100 years...without huge investments of money or technology...you have to admire their mental capacity. They are the first ones in space...and put up the first satellite. We can ridicule them as much as we want for both "firsts"...but face it...they did it. Had Kennedy not made the "man-on-the-moon" idea top priority of the US government...then the Russians would have been first there too.
This guy likely has the correct idea...but will major science publications give him a chance to explain?
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