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Goodbye Dubai
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | March 14, 2006 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 03/14/2006 2:00:29 PM PST by Conservative Coulter Fan

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To: goldstategop

Farah eloquently provides stupidity with a voice. There is nothing positive about the GOP stampeding under Party of Treason leadership and trampling National Security through blind ignorance.


101 posted on 03/15/2006 6:14:26 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: thinkthenpost
"""I invite you over for dinner, your kids spend the night with mine, your business buys items from mine and vice versa, our wives gossip about the family down the street, hell we're in the neighborhood watch program.

I decide to buy the house down the street, maybe rent it, maybe fix it up hell I might move in. You then kick me in the balls, call my wife a whore, try to get the kids expelled, and finally hit me up for a better price like nothing happened.

I can certainly understand the UAE's response.

The majority of Americans, probably aren't paying attention, were you aware that nearly every port terminal in this country was run by a foreign owned corporation? I knew several were, I had no idea basically all are, I do now. Obviously you are against DPW taking ove P&O,I ask how is DPW any worse than Red China?"""


one flaw to your analogy it should have read:

I invite you over for dinner, your kids spend the night with mine, your business buys items from mine and vice versa, our wives gossip about the family down the street, hell we're in the neighborhood watch program.

I decide to buy the house down the street, maybe rent it, maybe fix it up hell I might move in. Then my son decides that our religious writings says the neighbors are the devil and must die. He them drives a truck full of explosives into the neighbors house and kills half their family. They then kick me in the balls, call my wife a whore, try to get the kids expelled, and finally hit me up for a better price like nothing happened.
102 posted on 03/15/2006 6:18:16 AM PST by commonerX (n)
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To: LibertarianInExile

This whole port issue was nothing more than a political stunt in an election year and had no basis in national security, again ask the Coast Guard, CIA, DHS, DOD etc.


103 posted on 03/15/2006 6:53:25 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: america-rules
I'm watching General Pace on CSPAN right now and he just answered this question:

We've used UAE ports more then any other ports in the world and they've given more support fighting terrorism since 9/11/01 then any other country. They are only 30 miles from Iran and have the only deep water port in the middle east where our large ships can dock for repairs etc..

Quit trying to confuse people with the facts of national security. They don't really want to be bothered with considerin whether rejection of this deal actually helped or hurt our overall security. They just want to feel like rejecting it improved security. Analysis is for RINO's. After all, its feelings, not reality, that matters. Right?

Here's what I can't figure out. Opponents of this deal went nuts because a UAE firm was going to be in charge of some port terminals in the U.S at which unloading would occur.

Exactly what is it about unloading items that already are sitting in ships in ports that is so dangerous? Are they going to smuggle in a nuke? Well hell, why not just blow it up in the port before it gets unloaded? By the time it actually reaches the dock, its a bit late to stop it, isn't it?

We let foreign flagged and operated airlines fly right into our major cities, and we already have ample evidence of what damage a fully loaded plane can do. Hell, if some government is complicit in a plot to bring in a nuke, stick the sucker in a jet that's scheduled to fly in. It's not like we search them before they enter U.S. airspace.

We let foreign flagged, owned, and operated ships get loaded in foreign ports, and then sail right into our harbors. Isn't that where the real danger is? Isn't what is getting loaded onto a ship in a foreign port far more important than what gets unloaded? Because once it is at a port terminal, it already is too late to stop it.

Given that we let foreign airlines fly right into our major cities carrying who knows what, and foreign ships enter our ports carrying who knows what, the feeding frenzy about the unloading of those ships was just irrational. It's like complaining about leaving a second story window unlocked, when all your doors are left not only unlocked but wide-open.

I'm not advocating banning foreign airlines or ships, but as long as we don't do that, concern over the unloading of goods at our terminals is almost pointless, and appears to be nothing more than irrational spite.

104 posted on 03/15/2006 7:31:05 AM PST by XJarhead
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Lets the air out of the Dubai balloon.


105 posted on 03/15/2006 7:33:54 AM PST by hershey
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To: All

I have commented on several threads concerning this sale, sometimes I think clearly and concisely, others times kind of rambling and unclear, but I think I will now let Post #104 speak for me.

I hope everyone has a great day.


106 posted on 03/15/2006 7:36:19 AM PST by thinkthenpost
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To: XJarhead
Are they going to smuggle in a nuke? Well hell, why not just blow it up in the port before it gets unloaded? By the time it actually reaches the dock, its a bit late to stop it, isn't it?

And therein spotlights the lack of reasoning on the anti-port side. I have always thought if there was a nuke or dirty bomb on a ship at the Houston port - they could do as much or more damage in the channel before they ever dock for unloading.

The Heroes of Flight 93 and the Shoebomber Flight have given the enemy pause. What unholy warrior coward wants to be taken down by dirty infidels without finishing their murderous mission? The enemy lies in wait for the left and the media to finish us off. Thanks for a well-thought out post.

107 posted on 03/15/2006 9:11:54 AM PST by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: CaptSkip; raybbr; DTogo; AZ_Cowboy; Itzlzha; Stellar Dendrite; NRA2BFree; Spiff; Pelham; ...

ping


108 posted on 03/15/2006 9:34:13 AM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Funds HAMAS and CAIR, check my homepage [UPDATED FREQUENTLY])
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan; Stellar Dendrite
If the U.S. strived earnestly toward energy independence we wouldn't need Arab money, and they wouldn't have any left!
109 posted on 03/15/2006 9:37:52 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

I don't read articles from WND, Newsmax, Agape Press, or Sierra Times anymore. These sources frequently provide misleading and made-up "news."


110 posted on 03/15/2006 9:38:21 AM PST by indcons (The MSM - Mainstream Slime Merchants)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
Thanks for ping. The battle of the Titan lobbyists.

The Dubai results was a case of one [so far]. What was unique in Dubai was the many references to the UAE relation with Israel.

What it may portend is a growing separation between the interests of Israel and those of the U.S. as expressed by the President. A gathering storm pits supporters of world trade as best for our country and supporters of combating Islam as best for our country. Bush has come down on the side of the traders. Congress did not.

111 posted on 03/15/2006 9:50:38 AM PST by ex-snook (God of the Universe, God of Creation, God of Love, thank you for life.)
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To: Echo Talon
Then the process of EUrabization will be complete.
112 posted on 03/15/2006 10:40:40 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: daybreakcoming
Thanks, but well-thought out posts don't matter on this issue. If there's one thing I've learned in the past few weeks, that's it.

I can't remember how many times I asked opponents of the deal to describe specifically how control of unloading terminals threatened our security. Never got an answer that contained even a hint of reasoning. All I'd get was "Bushbot" or "RINO", or conclusory assertions based on false premises like "giving other countries control of our ports damages our security." It just gets old.

113 posted on 03/15/2006 10:48:47 AM PST by XJarhead
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To: XJarhead

I understand but it still matters to me and will in the time to come. I never thought to see "conservatives" line up behind hillary and schumer in an emotional kneejerk response. And that includes congress, pundits, and FReepers. I shall beware of them as never before.
Thank you again.


114 posted on 03/15/2006 11:24:45 AM PST by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: indcons

Come on how could you avoid these fantastic sources of comedy?


115 posted on 03/15/2006 2:01:17 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: XJarhead
Thanks, but well-thought out posts don't matter on this issue. If there's one thing I've learned in the past few weeks, that's it.

They rarely do. There is nothing special about this issue, in that regard.

116 posted on 03/16/2006 1:42:00 AM PST by ordinaryguy
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