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To: atlaw

"particular creationist shibboleth"

another typical tactic of "your side"

when you can't win the argument you try to belittle the other person's position.

why not try losing the spleen and the smart mouthed comments and answer my question.

Why does your side try to stifle debate?

Your side got a federal judge to refuse to allow creationism to be taught in schools.

You cannot defend that honestly.


389 posted on 03/15/2006 9:41:20 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Your side got a federal judge to refuse to allow creationism to be taught in schools.

That was the Supreme Court in Edwards v. Aguillard.

The Dover ruling found that 'Intelligent Design' was creationism disguised as science. Disguised or not, creationism is unconstitutional in a state run school.

427 posted on 03/15/2006 11:59:02 AM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

The parents of Dover did not want religion taught in science class.

A conservative, Bush appointed judge upheld that positon.


453 posted on 03/15/2006 12:48:43 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: Leatherneck_MT
another typical tactic of "your side"; when you can't win the argument you try to belittle the other person's position; why not try losing the spleen and the smart mouthed comments and answer my question.

Why does your side try to stifle debate?

Oh my. I didn't realize the extent of your suffering at the hands of evil evolutionists. My apologies.

But once again, who's stifling debate? You state that a federal judge refused to permit the teaching of creationism in public schools, suggesting that this equals "stifling of debate." How so?

(1) Are creationists prevented from doing scientific research? No.

(2) Are creationists prevented from publishing and disseminating their views? No (and please don't tell me that you are unaware of the veritable mass-production of creationist books, pamphlets, web sites, and television and radio programming)

(3) Are you prevented from offering scientific support for creationism on this forum? No.

The problem is, creationists don't do (1), which means their mass-productions of (2) have nothing to do with science, which properly leads the courts to believe that their mass productions of (2) have everything to do with religion, which ultimately puts you at a rather embarrassing disadvantage when you attempt to present creationism as science while pursuing (3).

Believe me, I feel your pain.

471 posted on 03/15/2006 1:41:00 PM PST by atlaw
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