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Free Inside Every 'Guest Worker' Plan: A Ticking Social Security Time Bomb.
americanchronicle.com ^ | March 8, 2006 | Barbara Anderson

Posted on 03/13/2006 12:17:02 PM PST by cope85

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To: SUSSA

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2001/December/01_crm_654.htm

Tyson doesn't admit it, but they do it. Wait until they settle this. Then DC will be in trouble. Duke Cunningham with a wire won't be half as dangerous as Tyson under the gun.

And your comment that such would be all over the news TOMORROW? BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Who do you think owns the news media? A story like that only takes root after the MSM is scooped again and again by pajamas media and someone in an MSM paper cracks and runs it. Look at the Swift Vets. They didn't get MSM access for MONTHS!


61 posted on 03/13/2006 4:28:55 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: daviddennis

Bingo, we have a winner!


62 posted on 03/13/2006 4:29:04 PM PST by libertybell
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To: Ben Ficklin
Did they bribe somebody at SS?

Yes.

When I went through the Immigration Academy in 1997, two of the other officers in my class were former IRS investigators.

Allot of folks think the DEA or AFT are the most corrupt agencies out there. I believe it's the IRS. I just wish I had a recorder going while they were telling us what goes on inside the IRS.

63 posted on 03/13/2006 4:32:48 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Marine Inspector

You are full of it.


64 posted on 03/13/2006 4:35:28 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: azhenfud
Adding more who will expect increased benefits with increased promises only postpones the day of reckoning.

The next lesson will be "mordidas". This mess will be corrupt from the very beginning.

65 posted on 03/13/2006 4:51:07 PM PST by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: LibertarianInExile

I know they do it, but as I said above they don't admit it. Tyson at first denied they were doing it, and then said it was one rogue manager acting against company policy.

When this Tyson story broke, I said the Justice Dept. should have used the RICO law and taken all the assets of the company, plus all the personal assets of the Directors and the officers. Under RICO they then have to prove the assets weren’t acquired with the fruits of their crime.

Had they done that, companies would have been firing criminal aliens so fast, they’d be short handed for weeks.

As for it being in the news, don’t you think the MSM would love to run the story if a big Republican contributor admitted breaking federal law? I doubt that they could contain their excitement. What the law was would probably be downplayed, but you can bet they would be all over the fact that a big Republican contributor admitted breaking the law.

Just as an aside, Tyson is a big Clinton backer. They don’t give near as much to Republicans as to Democrats. I thought you might come back with Wal-Mart because they give more to Republicans.

But, like Tyson, they don’t admit they hire illegals.


66 posted on 03/13/2006 4:57:27 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: Ben Ficklin

When you don't know sh*t it's kind of hard to argue with somebdoy that's been there and done that isn't it?


67 posted on 03/13/2006 5:04:45 PM PST by Ajnin (I)
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To: Ajnin; Marine Inspector
I do know the difference between events of the 80s and totalization. I also know the difference between the the IRS and SSA.

If your argument is based on conspiracies and "dubious documents", your shitouttaluck.

68 posted on 03/13/2006 5:19:37 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: SUSSA
"Had they done that, companies would have been firing criminal aliens so fast, they’d be short handed for weeks."

Too bad that they didn't. Sooner or later a nativist will get in and the economy will be so reliant on these criminal SOBs it'll be crippled by merely the idea of enforcing the law.

"As for it being in the news, don’t you think the MSM would love to run the story if a big Republican contributor admitted breaking federal law? I doubt that they could contain their excitement. What the law was would probably be downplayed, but you can bet they would be all over the fact that a big Republican contributor admitted breaking the law."

As much as I hate to say it, I think the media is getting savvy about this after Dubai and Plamegate have blown up in their faces. I can't see their editors or their publishers wanting to upset the gravy train. They will not want to smear the GOP on that sort of thing because they know the Rats will be ten times tarred. That's why the Dubai issue isn't being pressed by the MSM now. Plus, the owners of these MSM conglomerates are often just as reliant on that major party goodwill in other areas, and don't like anything but flag-burning controversies. Immigration and trade policy will rarely be a long-lived issue--they can keep it squelched--though they will stoke the fires of social legislation white hot.

"Just as an aside, Tyson is a big Clinton backer. They don’t give near as much to Republicans as to Democrats. I thought you might come back with Wal-Mart because they give more to Republicans. But, like Tyson, they don’t admit they hire illegals."

Any big company like Tyson or Walmart gives to all sorts of politicos. I know Tyson backed Clinton, but it still gives beaucoup bux across party lines, just to keep access and keep gummint out of its plants.

69 posted on 03/13/2006 5:38:28 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: SUSSA

2. Hormel,Tyson,Home Depot,WalMart


70 posted on 03/13/2006 5:51:40 PM PST by axes_of_weezles
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To: ClaireSolt

Americans cannot work for less than Mexicans because they have a higher standard of living. Yes, the GOP fat cats most definitely want cheap labor that they can pay less for than Americans.


71 posted on 03/13/2006 5:55:36 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: daviddennis

"The only way to solve this problem is to have fresh blood"

The other way is to eliminate SS, Medicare, and all other social programs. They are unconstitutional and illegal.

BTW, my wife and I are 68.


72 posted on 03/13/2006 5:57:15 PM PST by dalereed
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To: LibertarianInExile; SUSSA

On cultural issues the MSM is very liberal. On free trade and open borders issues the MSM touts the interests of their corporate advertisers. Every editorial page of every MSM publication supported NAFTA, CAFTA and criticizes 'immigrant bashing'.


73 posted on 03/13/2006 5:58:07 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: TLI

#22 - BTTT!


74 posted on 03/13/2006 6:06:59 PM PST by janetgreen (The White House fiddles while America is invaded)
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To: cope85

"Director Joann Barnhardt is so eager to give U.S. Social Security benefits to Mexicans that she signed the U.S.-Mexico Totalization Agreement in July 2004 and built an SSA building in Mexico: sort of a branch office, paid for by American taxpayers."

Isn't she thoughtful. Don't ya just love the folks who are so incredibly free with the taxpayers money? What's the solution? Garnish her wages until she pays us back...


75 posted on 03/13/2006 6:12:50 PM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: ex-snook

"Users of illegal immigration are big GOP contributors to Congress"

That the majority of the Dems seem as unconcerned about the illegal's invading the USA as most of the Republicans is a clear indication that they also profit from cheap labor. If it were not so, they would be making a stink about it. Hillary can tell you all about it, the plantation, you know.


76 posted on 03/13/2006 7:04:50 PM PST by gas0linealley
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To: Ben Ficklin

You're in denial!


77 posted on 03/13/2006 7:05:23 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Tokra
"Very well said. I get tired of trying to explain to people that these immigrants will be the ones funding our Social Security checks. If not for them - the system would soon run out of money.

What a ridiculious argument for having our country overrun by illegal immigrants.

I, for one would gladly accept lesss in social security payments to get rid of this problem.

BTW, you will need more than social security to retire on.

78 posted on 03/13/2006 7:16:00 PM PST by TheLion
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To: gas0linealley

The Democrats look at the illegals as a potential voting block.

They want power and this is just another meants to get it.


79 posted on 03/13/2006 7:22:04 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Ben Ficklin
The reality is that most illegals who have paid in and will never get credit.

Boo-freakin'-hoo

80 posted on 03/13/2006 7:30:19 PM PST by La Enchiladita (United we stand, divided we fall.)
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