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A Bush Alarm: Urging U.S. to Shun Isolationism
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Posted on 03/13/2006 6:35:44 AM PST by NormB

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To: Bikers4Bush

Every day, I hear more and more stories on the news about illegals involved in crimes in my area. Get's worse every day.

These are not guest workeres any more than a cockroach is a guest worker.

Rush and co make a very good argument about foreign countries doing business in this country and how this port deal was blown out of porportion. I can see why some people would agree with him. However, We are at war with an ideal that threatens the safety of EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN. Islam. But we can't say that we are at war with Islam. We must cloud it in rhetoric. Meanwhile the ultimate plan is one of blending all cultures into one big mushy state. Sound like heaven? But the architects of this society forgot history. Islam will be the shoehorn for Globalism.

Stated goal: Global Unity
Unstated Goal: Global control

State goal: Guest workers
unstated goal: Destabilize society to give reason for controls.

We are being taken for a ride my friends. You can think you are in the front seat, but that wont matter. When the car stops moving and you get out, you wont recognize a damn thing.


41 posted on 03/13/2006 7:53:40 AM PST by NormB (Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
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To: Bikers4Bush

Well said, your word is dependent on how many times it is broken.


43 posted on 03/13/2006 8:01:44 AM PST by jeremiah (Anyone got a tagline for rent?)
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To: 1rudeboy

I believe that Bush was disallowed the tariffs on the steel, by a world body that threatened action against us if we kept it. IOW we have to comport to laws from without our country. That can only happen if we allow it, and we did and continue to do so. Any time we allow a body outside of the US to rule on an issue having to do with our policy, we lose sovereignty. We also lose the argument, for most countries and people, will go against us just because they hate everything about America.


44 posted on 03/13/2006 8:06:11 AM PST by jeremiah (Anyone got a tagline for rent?)
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To: purpleland
People would rather live under the yoke of oppression, than die for liberty. American spirit is buried under a pile of rotten, worthless paper money. The percentage of those that would sacrifice comfort to correct the system is very small, and they way to do it is not through slow movements, but sharp corrections.

It is sad that the communists did beat us, we just thought it would be USSR that did it, not the worldwide socialism that has us by the short hairs now. They are just reeling us in, while we jerk around a bit, trying to throw the hook.

45 posted on 03/13/2006 8:21:16 AM PST by jeremiah (How much did we get for that rope?)
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To: NormB

If this country gets around to seriously talking about a fence, and cutting off bennies to illegals, we will see people dying in riots. I think it is close to that right now, just with the preliminary talking that is going on.


46 posted on 03/13/2006 8:23:59 AM PST by jeremiah (How much did we get for that rope?)
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To: jeremiah

The steel tariff was in effect for almost two years.


47 posted on 03/13/2006 8:35:16 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: hedgetrimmer
From today's FR:

Toyota to build Camrys at Subaru plant in Indiana
Kia picks Georgia for first U.S. plant

Read it and weep.

48 posted on 03/13/2006 8:47:48 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: hedgetrimmer
Isolationism is the globalist code word for independence. Independence is bad, despite our national declaration for it,therefore their word for it, isolationism, is also bad.

Hah! I was just thinking about Bush's declaration the we are "too dependent" on foreign oil.

Which is it, George?

49 posted on 03/13/2006 8:49:39 AM PST by raybbr
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To: Red Boots
They have to make a profit, and there are too many regulations ( passed by greedy governments, and approved by greedy taxpayers who are hoping to get something for nothing); and excessive demands by unions.

Feh! It is greed.

I have a neighbor that provides scaffolding for nuclear power plants. He has decided to go to China for his parts. It saves him about 20% percent on material costs. He went there and paid off the locals. He was wined and dined and provided prostitutes.

Since he has done this the company that used to provide the parts here in the U.S. has lost his business.

A company in China is paying for some real cheap labor. The kicker is that he got about 85% of all the contracts. He had no real competition.

Now you have about ten or so boats in China being raised but only one here. Let's not forget the great tips he gives the prostitutes, either.

50 posted on 03/13/2006 8:51:27 AM PST by raybbr
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To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; Pyro7480; ...
He [Bush] said he had to convince Americans that "a 300-million-person market of middle-class citizens here in India" would soon be buying American goods.

"If we can make a product they want, then it becomes — at a reasonable price — and then all of a sudden, people will be able to have a market here," he said.

What would be such products? What is a "reasonable price" for Indian middle class? Why would such products be made in USA?

51 posted on 03/13/2006 8:53:55 AM PST by A. Pole (M. Boskin: "It doesn't make any difference whether a country makes potato chips or computer chips!")
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To: raybbr

Why don't you report him for violating the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act?


52 posted on 03/13/2006 8:54:05 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: jeremiah

"If this country gets around to seriously talking about a fence, and cutting off bennies to illegals, we will see people dying in riots."

Are we, as US citizens, a sovereign people, or are we not? That's what it all boils down to, in the end. Extending benefits to illegal aliens, who were allowed to gain entry via our tenuous borders, is a serious affront to those who bothered to become citizens legally, as well as the native born, who have worked and paid into the system all their adult lives, only to see what amounts to squatters come in and receive government assistance that is, in many instances, superior to anything they could expect to receive.

It's a problem that needs to be addressed, sooner rather than later. If you perceive a threat of rioting now, what do you see five years down the road, if the current status quo is allowed to remain in place?


53 posted on 03/13/2006 8:55:00 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: 1rudeboy
Why don't you report him for violating the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act?

What is that? How would I prove it? It all happened over in China.

54 posted on 03/13/2006 8:56:16 AM PST by raybbr
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To: raybbr

I guess it's no big deal, then.


55 posted on 03/13/2006 8:57:14 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I never said it was a big deal. I just don't associate with him anymore. He's a product of super-capitalism. Someone who doesn't care about America anymore. It's funny. Someone like him will go over there and brag about how great China is to make American dollars.


56 posted on 03/13/2006 9:02:39 AM PST by raybbr
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To: RegulatorCountry
Civil war II? I think so, with the SW becoming the center of conflict.

The thing that really gets to me, is those that will argue that we need these people to support Social Security. They say these programs are pyramid schemes that need massive influx of new workers to maintain payments without tax increases. ( A common Medved/Rush argument). The reality is, that social costs are a net loss to the govt, they cost more than they receive in taxes. The more people we allow in to pay taxes, will also receive more in benefits, than taxes paid in. I heard that by 2025, Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security will take 100% of tax revenues to remain at current levels. That is only 19 years before this country is bankrupt in reality, as well as on paper.

57 posted on 03/13/2006 9:07:56 AM PST by jeremiah (How much did we get for that rope?)
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To: raybbr
Here is the contact information for the DOJ.
58 posted on 03/13/2006 9:16:13 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: A. Pole

Seems to me the product they want is nuclear tech. And he already gave them that, for mangoes.


59 posted on 03/13/2006 9:27:15 AM PST by sheana
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To: RegulatorCountry

Extending benefits to illegal aliens, who were allowed to gain entry via our tenuous borders, is a serious affront to

citizens that have to pay for them. Whether they were born here or immigrated legally.
Take this argument to the next level. Why is it my responsiblility (as a citizen) to pay for some criminal that snuck across the border?


60 posted on 03/13/2006 9:29:23 AM PST by sheana
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