[Do not dub me shapka broham]

Yes, and their regressing back to those halcyon days when they marauded through the Anatolian peninsula, the Balkans, and central Europe.

Her point, namely, that these accession talks with Turkey will spell the death knell of Europe-at least, as Europe has been known historically, Enlightenment Europe-is completely accurate.

PM Erdogan is a democratically elected fascist, and Kemalism is all but a dead-letter.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

Edit: They're.

Argh.

I hate the fact that you can't edit comments retroactively.

:-)

[muawiyah]

The Turks would actually be dangerous if they regressed back to the days of the Seljuks, but they won't do that, so no worry.

We'd have to irradiate the place otherwise, and the Arabs would be cheering us on in that case.

Ignoring Ataturk for a moment, the Port made tremendous advances in its ability to handle modern foreign relations about the time of the American Revolution, and after the Greek Revolution was successful, they decided to clean up their internal act and develop the apparatus of a modern state.

[La Enchiladita]