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Arabs lag behind in digital revolution
AFP and Yahoo news ^ | 11 March 06 | Not specified

Posted on 03/12/2006 7:02:45 AM PST by SkyPilot

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To: SkyPilot
Furthermore, I don't believe there ever was a "Golden Age of Islam" for science and mathematics.

Whatever achievements they claim were lifted entirely from Greek, Roman, and other cultures that they looted and plundered

 

Arabic philosophy is not important as original thought.  Men like Avicenna and Averroes are essentially commentators.  Speaking generally, the views of the more scientific philosophers come from Aristotle and the Neoplatonists in logic and metaphysics, from Galen in medicine, from Greek and Indian sources in mathematics and astronomy, and among mystics religious philosophy has also an admixture of old Persian beliefs.  Writers in Arabic showed some originality in mathematics and in chemistry – in the latter case, as an incidental result of alchemical researches.  Mohammedan civilization in its great days was admirable in the arts and in many technical ways, but it showed no capacity for independent speculation in theoretical matters.  Its importance, which must not be underrated, is as a transmitter.  Between ancient and modern European civilization, the dark ages intervened.  The Mohammedans and the Byzantines, while lacking the intellectual energy required for innovation, preserved the apparatus of civilization – education, books, and learned leisure.  Both stimulated the West when it emerged from barbarism – the Mohammedans chiefly in the thirteenth century, the Byzantines chiefly in the fifteenth.  In each case the stimulus produced new thought better than any produced by the transmitters – in the one case scholasticism, in the other the Renaissance (which however had other causes also).

- Lord Bertrand Russell, A History Of Western Philosophy (1st Edition, 1945)

 

21 posted on 03/12/2006 7:49:28 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: opinionator
Yeah, but they did invent 'zero'. As soon as they invent 'one' they will breach the digital divide.

Funny.
As a decimal system placeholder, they "borrowed" it from India.

And they did not invent astronomy, either. They simply renamed the stars discovered by others, and eventually those copies reached the west.

Conquer -- steal --- move on. The Islamic way.

22 posted on 03/12/2006 7:56:00 AM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: varg
No, they didn't. They stole that from the Indians.

Geronimo always denied that!

23 posted on 03/12/2006 7:57:47 AM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: SkyPilot
The Arab world is lagging behind in the digital revolution, with Internet users making up less than four percent of its population, according to participants in a telecommunications development conference in Doha.

Great, yet another digital divide fee to be tacked on our phone bills. /s

24 posted on 03/12/2006 8:03:35 AM PST by Dahoser (Time to condense the spending nonsense: Terry Tate for OMB head.)
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To: SkyPilot
When the educational system consists of learning the teachings of Mad Moe the filthy, illiterate, pedophile prophet, a few subjects will be neglected.
25 posted on 03/12/2006 8:03:58 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: SkyPilot
I don't believe there ever was a "Golden Age of Islam" for science and mathematics.

See long ago discussion at What, Exactly, are the Great Achievements of the Islamic World?

ML/NJ

26 posted on 03/12/2006 8:06:00 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: SkyPilot

The title of this story is as obvious as saying "South Park" is a cartoon! Duh, these people live in the stone ages.


27 posted on 03/12/2006 8:08:37 AM PST by rodeocowboy
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To: SkyPilot
Overall arab literacy is low. Saharan countries have literacy rates around 50%. Even more prosperous arab countries have 80% - 90% literacy.

Writing was invented in that part of the world, and they have 10% illiteracy in the best of conditions. Collectively, they publish or translate around 300 books per year.

28 posted on 03/12/2006 9:04:40 AM PST by Spirochete
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To: SkyPilot
Furthermore, I don't believe there ever was a "Golden Age of Islam" for science and mathematics. Whatever achievements they claim were lifted entirely from Greek, Roman, and other cultures that they looted and plundered.

The "Golden Age" of Islam coincided with their time of expansion, when there was a steady in-flow of loot and slaves who knew how to run a civilization. When this in-flow stopped, so did the Golden Age

If it wasn't for oil, the Arab world would be an inconsequential hell-hole of no interest to anybody

29 posted on 03/12/2006 9:27:01 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: varg
Yep. Even in Dubai you have to go to the free zones (where all the rich White people live) to have uncensored Internet access.

This may change with increased satellite Internet service. With prices now around $50/mo, it's affordable by the middle class

I would imagine a service offering encrypted, high-speed access to the internet, where people could download uncensored video, music, etc would get a lot of customers in the Arab world. Particularly with antennas that can now be more easily concealed

30 posted on 03/12/2006 9:35:54 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: opinionator
Yeah, but they did invent 'zero'. As soon as they invent 'one' they will breach the digital divide.

Zero and the "arabic" number system was invented in India.

31 posted on 03/12/2006 9:38:46 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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I mean this in all seriousness, do they have any type of higher learning over there, or do they all leave that area, come back or not come back.

The #1 major at every single University in the Arab world is "Islamic Studies."

I am not making that up.

If they wish to study engineering, mathematics, biology, or other areas, they go to Europe, Canada, or the US.

32 posted on 03/12/2006 9:59:29 AM PST by SkyPilot
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Three brothers, Abdullah, Moamar and Bashi, were mourning the passing of their father, reading his last will. He'd bequeathed them his herd of 17 camels to be divided thusly:
1/2 to the oldest;
1/3 to the middle son;
1/9 to the youngest.

They spent the day arguing over the division, at a loss for a solution, when an old man rode up on a camel.
They explained their problem and the old man nodded and said, "Add my camel to the herd and proceed".

Abdullah received 9 camels,Moamar 6 and Bashi got 2.

The old man retrieved his camel and rode away. They shouted their thanks after him, to which he replied "Shalom!".
33 posted on 03/12/2006 10:17:14 AM PST by BIGLOOK (Order of Battle: Sink or capture as Prize, MS Media)
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To: varg
The word zero comes ultimately from the Arabic ṣifr (صفر) meaning empty or vacant, a literal translation of the Indian Sanskrit śūnya meaning void or empty. :)

One History Channel program about the invention of zero had a neat scene: A teacher is telling a scribe about the concept. The scribe gets a puzzled look and says "What symbol do we use for it? How do you display "nothing"? The teacher says, "Think of a hole in the ground - that is nothing". So the scribe carefully writes "0" to describe the hole. A neat Urban Legend, if nothing else.

34 posted on 03/12/2006 12:17:53 PM PST by Oatka (Hyphenated-Americans have hyphenated-loyalties -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: Duke Wayne

There used to be an "American University" in Beirut, mostly staffed by Western professors, but most of its staff has been run off by the Islamofascists. When Rockefeller made millions on oil he set out to create universities and libraries. I don't know of a single Islamic Rockefeller, even though there are plenty of oil rich Muslims, particularly in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.


35 posted on 03/12/2006 12:51:51 PM PST by libstripper
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To: SkyPilot

The only electronics they need is the cell phone to detonate IEDs. If they had to use what Arabs have invented in the past thousand years, they'd be reduced to running over people with their camels.


36 posted on 03/12/2006 12:55:29 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: BIGLOOK

LOL! Good one.


37 posted on 03/12/2006 5:06:02 PM PST by SkyPilot
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