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To: RouxStir
But every muslim supports every other muslim, including the estimated 130,000,000 who identify themselves as islamists and who are open about their desire to kill all Jews, Christians and other infidels. A muslims first allegiance is to islam not the US or the UK or wherever they happen to live.

How many Muslims have you spoken to about this? Is a Christian's first allegiance to Christianity or the United States? If their first allegiance is to Christianity, does it follow that they defend the various horrible things that Christians have done to Jews throughout the ages? What you are seeing is fear. Yes, other Muslims fear the fanatics just as much as the editors of Western newspapers do.

78 posted on 03/12/2006 11:46:19 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions

I am ashamed of many things done by Christianity throughout the centuries. I don't defend the terrible things that Christians have done to Jews and other religions, some of which were completely or effectively wiped out by the Christians acting in the name of their faith. Do you see any substantial numbers of Christians defending these actions? No! Most importantly, you do not see any substantial numbers of Christians defending continued actions of this genre by miniscule numbers of Christians towards other religions. In every cultural group you will see a percentage of ethnocentric extremists. When a small group of Christians gets "out of control" in their behavior towards other religions or people with in their religion, the hierarchy of the church and/or the government of the state in which they operate reins them in. This is because Christianity, and most other religions have developed as civilisation has progressed. Islam has not developed. Islam has gone in the other direction. The problem with Islam is that the percentage of extremists is high along with a high percentage of clerics who propagate this behavior. And the states within which they operate facilitate the murderous behavior. The remaining "silent muslims" are giving support to those who murder in their name by allowing such clerics to teach, by allowing these "radicals" to act as their voice, by giving these "radicals" shelter in their mosques and by supporting these "radicals" financially. The House of Saud is a prime example. Here you have a grossly wealthy monarchy that is capable of effectively stopping the promotion of extremism if they so desire. Yet they are promoting extremism through their religious schools. They cannot hide behind the excuse that they are afraid of the extremists. The extremists are firmly entrenched in the House of Saud to the point where the extremists call many of the shots. This extremist influence is exerted to a certain extent throughout the fragmented groups of muslims, including those in the US. Can you imagine the shock in the world it the same percentage of Christian clerics went to the pulpit every week and instructed their congregations to kill members of other religions? And I am referring to today, not 50, 100 or 900 years ago. That was a different time and there were different standards prevailing. No other major religion allows their clerics to preach murder.

All of Germany had to pay the price for the sins of the Nazis. Certainly there were many Germans who did not side with the Nazis but they allowed the Nazis to use the German state to wreck havoc on the world. This is just as muslims are allowing the dominant element, extremism, to use the religion to attempt to erradicate all other religions. And they sit with their hands covering their eyes, ears and mouthes??? If the percentage of extremists is so small as some claim, why do they allow this to happen?

My neighbor is an Arab muslim and I certainly don't think he would go on a rampage murdering Christians or Jew. But at the same time, he sends money to "muslim charities" that are in reality terrorist groups. He attends a mosque that accepts any muslim, regardless of the hatred they espouse. And he is strangely silent when there is a terrorist attack anywhere in the world.

Islam has to "clean house" or civilised peoples will to it for them.


135 posted on 03/13/2006 12:15:55 PM PST by RouxStir (Mohammed is THE BOMB!)
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