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To: Question_Assumptions

You seem to really be defending Islam . Making quite a lot of excuses as well, with sort of a "but yea, they do it to , the Jews and Christians " attitude. I'm getting a bad feeling about you my friend .


124 posted on 03/12/2006 9:10:20 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: binkdeville
You seem to really be defending Islam .

I'm defending innocent Muslims. I tend to think that conviction requires guilt and that individuals are guilty, not groups, and that guilt by association is a very dangerous thing. I'm funny that way. It's also why I oppose affirmative action, reparations, and courts telling men that they have to pay child support for children that are not biologically theirs just because any man will do for punishment.

Making quite a lot of excuses as well, with sort of a "but yea, they do it to , the Jews and Christians " attitude.

What I'm saying is that Jews and Christians did do the same sort of thing in the sixth century that Muslims are doing now. Jews and Christians managed to get over it and move on, despite having passages in their holy books that advocate quite a few rules and types of behavior that the followers of neither religion follow or advocate any longer.

The violent passages calling for the stoning of homosexuals, mediums, and obnoxious sons are still in the Old Testament and there are plenty of incidents of Jews being punished for blasphemy or straying from God in the Old Testament yet there are Reformed Jews who eat pork, work on Saturdays, and even have gay and lesbian rabbis. If Judaism has rules prohibiting these things, then how can there be Jews who do these things? Answer that and you'll answser the question of how Islam can (and does, for quite a few adherents today) demand all sorts of behavior that the followers ignore. The path for Islam to get out of the sixth century is to interpret the Quran the way many Jews and Christians interpret the Bible. And, no, that won't make the militant Muslims any happier than gay rabbis or ministers make Orthodox Jews or Fundamentalists Christians. That's not the point. The point is that such a transformation is possible, regardless of what the holy book in question quite clearly says. If Muslims choose to stick with the sixth century, then things will go badly for them. But I see plenty of evidence that there are Muslims who can and have moved beyond the sixth century.

I'm getting a bad feeling about you my friend .

Probably nowhere near as bad of the feeling I get from the "kill 'em all and let God sort them out" Freepers who hate all Muslims. But, hey, I can't control your feelings and you can't control mine.

130 posted on 03/12/2006 9:38:38 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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