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Martinsville High School Student Chokes to Death at School (Teacher prevented 911 call)
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| 3/10/06
Posted on 03/10/2006 8:43:53 PM PST by Samwise
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To: Samwise
He says one of his friends tried to call 911 with his cell phone, but just as he reached an operator, he says a teacher closed his phone saying cell phones aren't allowed on campus. This sounds like BS. If I was a witness to the choking the teacher who tried to close my phone would have to learn how to write tests with their left hand.
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posted on
03/11/2006 12:54:47 AM PST
by
Once-Ler
(The rat 06 election platform will be a promise to impeach the President if they win.)
To: bboop
You are pretty sure a teacher would never do that? Because????????? Any number of teachers would be capable of doing that....A friend of mine said that when she was in third grade, she was assigned an arithmetic book that had been bound incorrectly - the cover was on upside down. She turned the book to read the text right side up, and the teacher strode over, wrested it from her hands and turned it the other way - twice - during the class. At that age, she was too cowed by an authority figure to defend herself.
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posted on
03/11/2006 1:00:08 AM PST
by
Albion Wilde
(The best service a retired general can give is to...mothball his opinions. – Omar Bradley)
To: notpoliticallycorewrecked
<<> In Today's Sue-In-An-Instant world?? You're kidding, right??
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posted on
03/11/2006 1:14:49 AM PST
by
tcrlaf
To: metmom
What's wrong with some people that they think rules are more important than common sense? The kids who were intimidated and stopped by the teachers will live with the guilt of not having acted for the rest of their Lives. They'll always be wondering, "What if I hadn't listened to the teacher? He might be alive today." Your point is well taken, but the article says that many 911 calls did in fact go out anyway.
But yes, as I've said countless times on here, common sense has left the building in our society.
MM
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posted on
03/11/2006 1:27:22 AM PST
by
MississippiMan
(Behold now behemoth...he moves his tail like a cedar. Job 40:17)
To: SerpentDove
(Yikes)
Re: Kitty Genovese, a minor detail not clear from the other poster, the people who witnessed this crime were in their homes, they were not standing right at the scene. Of course someone could have, and should have, called the police. But none were in the position to actively intervene.
Poor Ms. Genovese, she's probably one of NYC's most famous murder victims.
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posted on
03/11/2006 3:07:36 AM PST
by
jocon307
(The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
To: sageb1
And no one used Heimlich? Sorry. Not written in the teachers contracts.
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posted on
03/11/2006 4:54:29 AM PST
by
Born Conservative
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To: rfreedom4u
I'm pretty sure no teacher in their right mind would slap a phone out of a student's hand. At my daughter's high school a guidance counselor prevented a teacher from giving food to a student who was having a hypoglycemic attack because school policy provides that only the school nurse can treat an ill student. Our schools are filled with bureaucrats who are unable to think for themselves.
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posted on
03/11/2006 4:59:01 AM PST
by
ContraryMary
(New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
To: rfreedom4u
I'm pretty sure no teacher in their right mind would slap a phone out of a student's hand. That's assuming there is a preponderance of right minded teachers.
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posted on
03/11/2006 5:04:34 AM PST
by
Thumper1960
(The enemy within: Demoncrats and DSA.ORG Sedition is a Liberal "family value".)
To: Socratic; All
Yes, I'm surprised by how many of my fellow FReapers (whom I respect) are quick to rush to judgement based on third hand reporting from a local news station rushing to get the scoop.
I do believe mistakes were made (because this teen died), but let's get some solid facts before we devolve to mob mentality.
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posted on
03/11/2006 5:19:54 AM PST
by
Toadman
To: sageb1
I'm not sure what he could have done. Having multiple arms might help, but they are kinda short.
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posted on
03/11/2006 5:50:49 AM PST
by
Bear_Slayer
(When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty)
To: rfreedom4u
I'm pretty sure no teacher in their right mind would slap a phone out of a student's hand.And I'm pretty sure no teacher in their right mind would confiscate a one inch long plastic toy gun.
I'm pretty sure no teacher in their right mind would have sex with their students.
What's your point?
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posted on
03/11/2006 5:51:51 AM PST
by
Balding_Eagle
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To: sageb1
And no one used Heimlich?
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In my health clinic it is law that every staff member be CPR certified every two years. I pay for it for the entire staff. We regularly have emergency drills and all emergency equipment is checked monthly.
Thankfully, in 27 years of practice we have never had a life threatening emergency.
I would think that teachers should be held to the same standard.
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posted on
03/11/2006 5:56:22 AM PST
by
wintertime
(Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
To: Samwise
Paramedics rushed the 15 year-old freshman to the hospital, where he later died.If he made it to the hospital alive I don't see how choking could have been the primary cause of death.
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posted on
03/11/2006 5:56:46 AM PST
by
FreePaul
To: Enchante
The real question is how on earth no one among the teachers and students knew how to do the Heimlich....
$$$$$$$$$$$$
When my kids were with us, we had family night every week. One week we covered the Heimlich.
That week my 8 year old choked on an orange seed. His 6 year old sister saved his life.
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posted on
03/11/2006 5:58:59 AM PST
by
wintertime
(Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
To: Samwise
Terrible. Stupid. Didn't have to end this way.
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posted on
03/11/2006 5:59:29 AM PST
by
hershey
To: Toadman
I do believe mistakes were made (because this teen died), but let's get some solid facts before we devolve to mob mentality.And miss the fun of throwing gratuitous insults at teachers and public schools? ;-)
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posted on
03/11/2006 6:01:19 AM PST
by
Amelia
(Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
To: Toadman
'rush to judgment'??? -- you might call it 'making preliminary decisions based on data presented.' It was not, after all, a trial. Just a chat forum.
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posted on
03/11/2006 6:02:06 AM PST
by
bboop
(Stealth Tutor)
To: wintertime
In my health clinic it is law that every staff member be CPR certified every two years...I would think that teachers should be held to the same standard.Actually, at least in my state and district, teachers aren't required to be CPR or first aid certified, although it wouldn't be a bad idea.
As someone on the thread has already pointed out, CPR does no good until the airway is cleared.
I did think most people in the U.S. knew the Heimlich maneuver, however.
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posted on
03/11/2006 6:04:39 AM PST
by
Amelia
(Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
To: Samwise
24 Hour News 8 spoke to another student witness who also wants to remain anonymous. He says one of his friends tried to call 911 with his cell phone, but just as he reached an operator, he says a teacher closed his phone saying cell phones aren't allowed on campus. Amazing all the teacher bashing and they are relying on an "anonymous" source.
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posted on
03/11/2006 6:08:53 AM PST
by
sausageseller
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