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Martinsville High School Student Chokes to Death at School (Teacher prevented 911 call)
WISH Channel 8 TV ^ | 3/10/06

Posted on 03/10/2006 8:43:53 PM PST by Samwise

Several Martinsville High School students say teachers stopped their calls to 911 while a fellow student was choking, because cell phones aren't allowed on campus.

Witnesses tell police the victim was rushing to finish his lunch before leaving the cafeteria, because you can't bring food outside. That's when they say he started choking, went into cardiac arrest, and died at the hospital.

Multiple 911 calls went out from Martinsville High School.

Witnesses say Jesse Tucker choked on a hamburger. Paramedics rushed the 15 year-old freshman to the hospital, where he later died.

"It's really hard to grasp the fact that you witnessed someone's death," says one student, "It's really hard to take in."

24 Hour News 8 spoke to another student witness who also wants to remain anonymous. He says one of his friends tried to call 911 with his cell phone, but just as he reached an operator, he says a teacher closed his phone saying cell phones aren't allowed on campus.

"She just closed his phone. She didn't do much to help the situation. She was panicky, she didn't go to the nurse's office," says one of the students.

Martinsville Police Chief Frans Hollanders says the investigation is still in preliminary stages, and at this point, investigators aren't pointing fingers.

"We've heard rumors to such an effect, that a cell phone was slapped out of a kids hand," Hollanders says, "We haven't been able to determine that at all whatsoever."

School officicals wouldn't talk on camera, but we caught up with an assistant superintendent and he issued this statement, "We are still in shock. We do believe the teacher did everything she could in the situation."

The police chief is encouraging witnesses to share their stories with investigators.

24 Hour News 8 did speak to Jesse's father Friday night. Understandably, he says he's still in shock and just wants to know exactly what happened.

An autopsy is scheduled for Saturday morning.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: abdomencompressions; cellular; choke; cpr; deathcultivation; emt; firstaid; firstresponders; hamburger; heimlich; in; indiana; martinsville; pspl; rescue; rescuesquad; student; wireless; zerotolerance
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To: caryatid
I have complained loudly and bitterly to all who will listen about the garbage fed to children in the cafeterias of the public schools. Fried this, fried that, chicken nuggets, everything heavy on "starches" [carbohydrates] ... pizza, hamburgers, sugary sweet rolls and/or desserts, sodas or other sweetened drinks instead of milk ... no fruit, no vegetables [french frys do NOT count] ... and, in this poor county, I know that some children eat both breakfast and lunch at school and go home to indifferent parents and no proper meal at night.

You're mostly correct, at least as it applies to the schools I've seen. Around here, they are served milk or juice, but can buy sodas from vending machines. Our students get several choices, and most seem to gravitate to the least healthy choice. :-(

Many parents of children in public schools see their children only as an inconvenience to be fobbed off on the schools.

...which is one reason public schools have such a hard time teaching some of them and getting them to behave. And, they aren't all poor children.

If we did away with public schools, what do you suppose would happen to those children?

221 posted on 03/11/2006 4:39:19 PM PST by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: caryatid; wintertime
Try to keep your eye on the substance of the thread instead of mere symbolism!

Read the post in question again. The first part of my post addressed the substance, and was a reply to wintertime calling me a rat troll. (You didn't think that was shameful?) Only the last two lines were concerned with "symbolism".

I do appreciate the posting tips, however. ;-)

222 posted on 03/11/2006 4:43:30 PM PST by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: Amelia
I'd guess that your children are much more resilient than you give them credit for, however, and probably would have done just fine in any school they attended. :-)

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Amelia,

Can you name one government school in America that would have had my NORMAL children ready for college at the ages of 13, 12, and 13? Or....would have had them completely finished with ALL of their college generals and all levels of Calculus ( to calculus III) by the age of 15?

Hm,,,,and allowed my NORMAL oldest **complete** freedom to arrange his athletic training and his many trips around the country and world. How many government schools are giving 16 year old teens ( who have already completed the first two years of college) a complete college night school program in business accounting?

This is a NEA talking point: Homeschoolers would have done just as well in government schools. Nonsense!

I don't think so, Amelia!
223 posted on 03/11/2006 4:46:53 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: freepatriot32
the teacher needs to be charged criminally for this at the very least for reckless [sic] disregard for human life and possible involuntary manslaughter
Based on what clear and established facts? Oops--that's right. There are very few of those in this article. All I see is student comments that may be 2nd- 3rd-, or 4th-hand. Why not wait for the investigation, hopefully by the police, and an autopsy report before making pronouncements of guilt?
224 posted on 03/11/2006 4:48:15 PM PST by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: Clara Lou; XeniaSt
See 155.

They tried to do Heimlich on the student, but he was so large they couldn't reach around him.

There were nurses at the school for a blood drive, and they tended to the student almost immediately, even before the paramedics arrived.

I found 6 news articles related to this incident on a news.google.com search, and this is the only one that mentioned the "problem" with the cell phones and suggested that the student wasn't treated promptly.

225 posted on 03/11/2006 4:48:34 PM PST by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: Amelia

You're mostly correct, at least as it applies to the schools I've seen. Around here, they are served milk or juice, but can buy sodas from vending machines. Our students get several choices, and most seem to gravitate to the least healthy choice. :-(

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Mostly, government institutionalized schooling robs children of the time they need to play. Play gives children the opportunity to run off calories and build strong bones and muscles.

Add to this that government institutionalized schooling forbids children in the school play yard the type of play that they need. They are afraid the children will get hurt or the games are not politically correct.


226 posted on 03/11/2006 4:50:41 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime
This is a NEA talking point: Homeschoolers would have done just as well in government schools. Nonsense! I don't think so, Amelia!

I didn't say they'd have done "just as well". I said they'd have done "just fine".

No, they probably wouldn't have been ready for college in their early teens, but I don't think they'd have been "blithering, drooling institutionalized idiots" either.

227 posted on 03/11/2006 4:52:22 PM PST by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: Amelia

Thanks. I thought that there might be some more information out there about this. Many here just enjoy bashing.


228 posted on 03/11/2006 5:06:18 PM PST by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: Amelia

calling me a rat troll.

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I ASKED if you were a troll. This is a big difference from "calling" you a troll.


229 posted on 03/11/2006 5:06:24 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: sageb1
And no one used Heimlich?

That was my thought. I work with the disabled and everyone I work with, including custodians and secretaries, are required to pass a first aide course. I can't believe that a school teacher would not know what to do in this situation. Not to mention that it appears that none of the students knew what to do either. The Heimlich maneuver is a very simple technique and anyone who has had any exposure to the Boy Scouts should know how to do this.
230 posted on 03/11/2006 5:08:09 PM PST by redheadtoo
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To: redheadtoo
They knew how to do Heimlich, but the student was very large & they couldn't get their arms around him.

More info here.

231 posted on 03/11/2006 5:12:27 PM PST by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: Clara Lou; Amelia

Thie whole thing reminds me of the teacher who was accused of fondling a female student in the detention room. My, how the Freepers went off! Then a few days later it was revealed that footage from the school security cameras showed that the teacher was not in the room at the time the incident was supposed to have occurred. Turns out the teacher had been the one to send the girl to detention, and she wanted some payback.


232 posted on 03/11/2006 5:19:23 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

We have one local TV station that focuses on the "if it bleeds, it leads" sort of story...I'm guessing that the TV station that did this version of the story is the same way: anything for some controversy.


233 posted on 03/11/2006 5:34:29 PM PST by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked

Nope just drug give out training.......Well NEA??????????


234 posted on 03/11/2006 5:36:14 PM PST by GregB (Give Pottsville,Pa their NFL Championship back!!!!!!!!)
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To: Samwise

Obviously, the teachers were more concerned with getting their kids back to class and finishing their assigned reading - Heather Has Two Mommies. Or perhaps they'd be tardy for the geography class, where they could continue their comparison of Bush to Hitler.


235 posted on 03/11/2006 5:38:54 PM PST by YourAdHere (Bradypalooza. Available at Amazon.Com)
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To: Amelia
...the student was very large & they couldn't get their arms around him.

It is more difficult to do the Heimlich on an obese person but not impossible. You use the same technique that you would use for a pregnant woman. The Heimlich can also be used on a person who is laying on the ground.
236 posted on 03/11/2006 5:39:40 PM PST by redheadtoo
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To: redheadtoo
The other stories said there were some nurses in the building for a blood drive, and they responded before the paramedics arrived.

They were able to partially clear the airway, but not completely.

The student apparently had crammed half a hamburger into his mouth. Not sure how much he actually swallowed.

237 posted on 03/11/2006 5:49:56 PM PST by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: Blue Jays
We even learned how to conduct a self-Heimlich using a plain deskchair in the event you found yourself choking without assistance nearby. I'd imagine it would be difficult to maintain composure when you feel your air being restricted.

That happened to me one time. "Maintaining composure" was really hard when I was choking to death. I knew I was dying. I prayed. It came into my head to use my desk chair. The food I was choking on FLEW out.

My words here do not even come close to describing the incident. But I guarantee I have been more careful since then.

Choking to death is a horrible and painful way to die. I hope that teacher suffers severe punishment.

238 posted on 03/11/2006 5:50:23 PM PST by JudyB1938 (If we live in the past, we will never see the future. Neither will most of our children. -Tahoe3002)
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To: JudyB1938

That's what I get for posting before I've read most of the comments. Please scratch my last sentence


239 posted on 03/11/2006 5:54:16 PM PST by JudyB1938 (If we live in the past, we will never see the future. Neither will most of our children. -Tahoe3002)
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To: Amelia

This story is weird. Something is not right. I would not be surprised to find that the boy had some other underlying health issue. But, unless they publish the result of the autopsy, we will never know.


240 posted on 03/11/2006 5:57:41 PM PST by redheadtoo
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