Posted on 03/10/2006 2:06:13 PM PST by syriacus
"Sorry, the priciple is the same - taking something of value from the rightful owner, and giving it to someone else."
The "rightful owner" in this instance is the governmental entity that has authorized the leasing of the property, which is already public property, the permissible taking of which is addressed by Kelo (bad decision in my opinion, btw). The contractual obligations contained within the lease agreements no doubt stipulate conditions upon, and in regard to, any third party hoping to assume the lease.
"Schumer, Clinton and King need to hear this; the LSM are not the only unintended consequences this is going to create"
I assume you don't mean Bill Clinton here, because he was paid by the UAE to lobby in favor of the deal.
I never heard anyone say there were no American Companies that could handle the operations. There were none that bid. They do not have the capitol. If they think they are going to pay less than Dubai did they are wrong. Another important factor was that Dubai was going to invest a lot of Capitol in many improvements making their terminals lean and mean, and many times more efficient and the Freaking Unions knew this would cost them jobs just like The Bar Code did. They went on strike for bar codes that saved weeks of Time and lots of money. The entire bottom line is Unions,Democrats,Corruption,mafia,payoffs, and Worthless weenie Pubbies that are afraid of their own shadow. Mark Foley may not be re-elected and he is my Congressman. There are huge numbers of People in my County that Supported him through thick and thin, and worked really hard to get his pompass a$$ elected, but that is past tense. He has lost a lot of support, and he has Conservative Dem competition this time. Without the Conservative Pubbies, he is toast. You may re-think being a Dem again, or call up Pat Buchanan and see what he is doing since he destroyed the reform party. Quite frankly I do not recognize your posts, as being the same person that came from the dems a couple of years ago. I am beginning to think it was an act, I hope not but it would not surprise me. God give you the strength to figure out what you want to really be.
"Martin O'Neil, former chairman of the trade and industry select committee, said yesterday that he was concerned that the Singaporean group, PSA, and its strategic partners could gain control of more than 90% of Britain's deep-sea container docks."
Oh well, I guess they have white trash xenophobes in the UK as well. /sarcasm.
"He has lost a lot of support"
You could easily make this statement about another, far more prominent Republican, but he lost his support for being in favor of the deal, the public relations aspect of which was beyond ham-handed, going straight into some sort of strange farce, that could not have alienated more people if it had been designed for that express purpose.
Whoever has the funding themselves or a credit line of $7 billion is welcome to ante up.
Aren't the wages the same for them as a foreign company? Why would an American company profit less? I don't understand.
"I don't understand."
That's what muddying the waters is usually intended to accomplish.
I expect each terminal to have a different operator when the dust settles, and I expect Dubai to get a substantial cash settlement from the Federal money vault.
So you muddied the waters and accomplished not answering my question? argh
"I expect Dubai to get a substantial cash settlement from the Federal money vault."
It wouldn't be the first time, and likely won't be the last.
"So you muddied the waters and accomplished not answering my question? argh"
LOL.
There are apparently 7 terminal contracts and 22 contracts of all kinds, plus there were some other terminal contracts in the works. I don't know what one terminal contract would require up front, but $ 1 billion seems excessive.
"I don't know what one terminal contract would require up front, but $ 1 billion seems excessive."
Somebody posted $700,000.00 on one of the threads, but I don't know of any source for that, so the number is a little suspect, just speculation.
He has idiots around him that when they saw UAE attached to a port deal, red lights should have gone off in their heads. What does he say and do? He didn't know about it till it was on his desk. And when we opposed the sale, what does he do? Threatens to pick up the unused veto pen for the first time. Remember 9-11? I do, and so do many Americans.
You think Bush will be the last...(I was going to call him conservative but, I don't think he is)conservative president? He ain't, but he's made his agenda clear. I think now since he can't be reelected, we're seeing what he really supports. Globalization, one worlder, what ever word makes you more comfortable. I voted for Bush, I don't pray to him. He has allowed the dims...the dims, to get ahead of the conservatives on security. I never would have believed it in a million years.
Whether or not you recognize my post is of no concern to me. He's hurting the entire party. Elections are coming up and have you read his last opinion about the republicans running again? I hope it was satire because if it's not he has a payback streak to those who are running for reelection. You want to bury your head in the sand and not see how all these things together are not taking their toll on the party, be my guest. I'm worried about which republican will run of president in '08. We better get ourselves together and pull together a plan before it's too late.
Now, it wouldn't surprise me if the Haji's really try to send something thru a port.
"Now, it wouldn't surprise me if the Haji's really try to send something thru a port."
We've all certainly drawn enough attention in that direction, haven't we?
Okay. So I don't see how this would be more or less an advantage for a foreign or U.S. company. At this point, it actually may be an advantage for an American company. If Eller is already in the business, they must know what they are getting into. I would like to think that American companies can succeed as do the foreign countries that are there.
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