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Actually America succeeded most because it accepted science and by luck found a cheap and plentiful source of energy and we became very rich selling it


If you want to believe that America got lucky that's fine. America did fine before oil. We expanded west from ocean to ocean on the backs of horses and mules. We conquered the Indian nations, We defeated the Mexicans, We helped tip the balance in favor of the Allies in WW1. We invented the light bulb, the telephone. We tamed one of the greatest rivers in the world, we invented flight, we landed a man on the moon. We freed millions of people around the world and in our own country too. Yet you say we were just "lucky" because we found oil?
It is our system of government that has caused all of this not luck. That is why the Middle east with all their oil is still where it is. That is why Mexico with all its oil is still a third world country because it is the type of government that lets people flourish not luck.

And as oil gets higher we will use less of it and develop other sources of energy and the Middle east will revert back to the backwater of the world that it has been since Mohammad rode out of the desert.

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And as oil gets higher we will use less of it and develop other sources of energy and the Middle east will revert back to the backwater of the world that it has been since Mohammad rode out of the desert.

In all of history the average time of a government has been but 250 years, Democracy as we know it is a new experiment. We have already declined from a republic to a democracy. What ever the form no government survives ruled by the everyday whim of the masses. Unfortunately most people from their experience think they are unique and that a significant change will not occur in their life time. they ignore history at their peril.