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To: rcocean
1. The article is crap. Its fact free and full of invective against anyone who disagrees.

The article is an EDITORIAL. It was written to make a point. What you call invective is simple argument for the point being made. The article is well written and cites examples of free trade panics in the past.

2. WSJ thinks only of money and the market. They don't give a damn about the country or anything else. They love "free" trade and massive illegal immigration because it puts money in the pockets of the big investors.

Class warfare won't gain you many converts on this board. Why is it that interest of big business are always deemed at odds with the interest of the country. Most people either work for or invest in big business.

3. The Port deal was bad Politics and Bad for security.

The deal had nothing to do with securtiy. Bad politics is only in the eye of the beholder. The dems certainly want it to look like bad politics.

4. UAE is not run by little kids, who will take their bat and go home because their feeling were hurt. They support us in Gulf for *THEIR OWN INTERESTS*. They will continue to do so.

And in this case their interests were trumped by stupiditiy. I'm sure they also invested a tidy sum in the feasibilty of the deal. Message: don't bother to consider investment in the US. We don't want you. Reply: we'll take our money somewhere else. Of course that won't be overt.

6. To base public policy on "what kind of message it sends" is stupid. Every decision sends any number of messages, and every "message" is received differently in different countries and by different people.

What do you think the Bush doctrine is based on? "You're either with us or against us?" Excuse me but isn't that a message that all policy with regard to the WOT is based on?

152 posted on 03/11/2006 8:54:50 AM PST by groanup (Shred for Ian)
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To: groanup
Thanks for the rational response.

2. WSJ thinks only of money and the market. They don't give a damn about the country or anything else. They love "free" trade and massive illegal immigration because it puts money in the pockets of the big investors.

Class warfare won't gain you many converts on this board. Why is it that interest of big business are always deemed at odds with the interest of the country. Most people either work for or invest in big business.

Wall Street cares about one thing, profits. They'd sell us to the Chicoms for a 10% return on investment. I care about this country not just money.

3. The Port deal was bad Politics and Bad for security.

The deal had nothing to do with securtiy. Bad politics is only in the eye of the beholder. The dems certainly want it to look like bad politics.

It was bad politics. It gave the Dems the chance to make us look weak on National security. Dems were charging we were selling out the country to the Arabs. Unfair? So what? Thats how they were selling it, and it was working. That's why the Repubs in killed it. The Dems wanted the issue to continue. Killing the deal hasn't hurt this country one little bit.

4. UAE is not run by little kids, who will take their bat and go home because their feeling were hurt. They support us in Gulf for *THEIR OWN INTERESTS*. They will continue to do so.

And in this case their interests were trumped by stupiditiy. I'm sure they also invested a tidy sum in the feasibilty of the deal. Message: don't bother to consider investment in the US. We don't want you. Reply: we'll take our money somewhere else. Of course that won't be overt.

So what? The UAE needs us; we don't need them. They will invest because they want access to the most secure, rich, market in the world

6. To base public policy on "what kind of message it sends" is stupid. Every decision sends any number of messages, and every "message" is received differently in different countries and by different people.

What do you think the Bush doctrine is based on? "You're either with us or against us?" Excuse me but isn't that a message that all policy with regard to the WOT is based on?

I don't understand your response. My comments relate to the complaints about the bad "message" sent to foreign investors by killing the deal. I hate this line of argument no matter who makes it.

167 posted on 03/11/2006 9:49:47 AM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: groanup
Class warfare won't gain you many converts on this board.

Actually, class warfare and other DUmmisms are much more popular on this board than I ever thought they would be. FR has been infiltrated.

244 posted on 03/12/2006 2:22:52 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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