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To: curiosity
I don't see how [it] follows that: as long as we brainwash kids into thinking they came from animals, then they will act like animals.

It is an admittedly broad statement describing a reasonable conclusion. If humans are simply the chance outcome of some sort of natural selection process that started with a puddle of soup and a few bolts of lightening, then this life is all we have. If that is the case then the rules, at least for individuals, change quite a bit. It’s every man for himself and the primary rule is - don't get caught. Have all the fun you can, any way you can because when you check out there is nothing left but the big dirt nap.

Anyone who is watching what is happening in our society would be hard pressed not to concede that we continue further in that direction daily. A few days ago the news was describing the dangers of binge drinking on spring break. In the last ten years or so we have a new problem on our highways; road rage. Pressure from gays for acceptance as normal is as never before in America, and I suspect it is only a matter of time before the age of consent gets pushed lower. How is the divorce rate these days? How are kids doing with that? Does anyone really believe there were as many female teachers chasing students twenty years ago, but it just "wasn't reported"? As many pedophiles? Child kidnappings?

Is all of this sickness new? No, I don’t think so. There is nothing new under the sun. America will go the way of many other great societies, destroyed from inside by its own debauchery. One is free to deny the existence of God; that is everyone’s God given right. But even if one concludes that God is a myth, the restraint on individuals, and therefore, society by Christianity is very real. That sword is double edged; one shouldn’t pretend there is no damage to its user.

61 posted on 03/10/2006 9:57:00 AM PST by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: 70times7
If humans are simply the chance outcome of some sort of natural selection process that started with a puddle of soup and a few bolts of lightening, then this life is all we have.

Your conclusions don't follow from your premises.

If that is the case then the rules, at least for individuals, change quite a bit. It’s every man for himself and the primary rule is - don't get caught. Have all the fun you can, any way you can because when you check out there is nothing left but the big dirt nap.

Again, doesn't follow.

Anyone who is watching what is happening in our society would be hard pressed not to concede that we continue further in that direction daily.

True, but it has nothing to do with the theory of evolution.

A few days ago the news was describing the dangers of binge drinking on spring break. In the last ten years or so we have a new problem on our highways; road rage. Pressure from gays for acceptance as normal is as never before in America, and I suspect it is only a matter of time before the age of consent gets pushed lower.

All very interesting, but what does this have to do with the theory of evolution?

One is free to deny the existence of God; that is everyone’s God given right.

Evolution has nothing to do with the existence of God. Plenty of very devout people, like the pope, believe in God and have no objection to evolution.

But even if one concludes that God is a myth, the restraint on individuals, and therefore, society by Christianity is very real. That sword is double edged; one shouldn’t pretend there is no damage to its user.

True, but has nothing to do with evolution.

67 posted on 03/10/2006 10:12:50 AM PST by curiosity
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To: 70times7
If humans are simply the chance outcome of some sort of natural selection process that started with a puddle of soup and a few bolts of lightening, then this life is all we have.

Not if God controlled the lightning and the recipe of the soup. If one thinks that God brings the thunderstorm, as random and "scientifically understood" as they are, then what's the problem with claiming that God created life via evolution? The Cathlics think so.

97 posted on 03/10/2006 11:51:28 AM PST by narby (Evolution is the new "third rail" in American politics)
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