Deal gives Dubai firm control of 23 U.S. ports - Eller lobbied Schumer - Causing this uproar

Buffalo News ^ | 3/4/2006 | Douglas Turner

[Txsleuth]

BTTT

[Solson]

LOLOL! Hey, you just said it's the American thing to do...an American company engaging in lobbying.

Fortunately, you don't get to determine what's "American" and what is not.

BTW, did ya see the report that IT oursourcing is leading to more job growth for IT folks in the US because of the money the outsourcing saves companies?? Check out the latest "Information Week" magazine.

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They'll try to use it in that manner. It won't have much effect. It's a port management deal that went bad. It's not going to stick in the public's mind for more than a week.

The Democrats will start bleating about the horrors of wire taps on Al Qaeda and cold pasta at Guantanamo and totally erase any paltry gain this issue might have given them.

If you think that's naive, show me all the articles about the failed port deal that get printed in July.

[shield]

MAJOR UPDATE: The President is PO'd over the back stabbing he took today [ports deal]. Rove is already sending out the message. Hot tip. Starting tomorrow the "umbilical cord " for 2006 and 2008 GOP incumbents is severed, along with any support from the Administration along the way. Looks like Bush is saying "I'm not running - screw me? No, screw you - you're done".

Never misunderestimate this man - never. Like I said, the Party is a mess - might just have to tear things down to build it back up. Time to clean house.

[Mo1]

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[Solson]

I will be happy to. We know, now, after two weeks of hysteria this was a business deal gone upside down. The media will continue to print that the Senate and Congress "saved" us from having dirty Ay-rabs running our national security...led by Schumer and Clinton.

This will end up as a 2006 election issue.

[Earthdweller]

"MAJOR UPDATE: The President is PO'd ..."

Good. I'm livid. For the first time in my life I was disrespectful in my comments to my entire Congress.(I called them all traitors and political whores yesterday and that is exactly how I felt.)

[ARCADIA]

That is pretty shallow; If that is all this President stands for then he stands for nothing. If he wants to take his ball and leave, then he should just quit and run off to Texas to play with his cattle.

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The media will continue to print that the Senate and Congress "saved" us from having dirty Ay-rabs running our national security...

Hyperbolic nonsense.

If the election is going to be fought on the issue of which party is stronger on national security, the GOP will be thrilled.

Hillary fights for civil rights for al Qaeda and illegal immigrants. And she brags about it! A failed port management business deal is irrelevant in the grander scheme.

[Kimberly GG]

I don't understand....according to your link....

''We are certainly encouraged by what the statement said,'' said Eller attorney Michael Kreitzer. ``We think we are one of the companies [who could buy it]. We have been in the business for 70 years. We could do it.''

and there are others interested as well......If that's the case, why didn't any of these American companies bid on the deal in the first place? OR,

was the 'deal' , the entire P&O package, bigger than any American company could afford and so no American company bid on it, but the American portion ONLY is affordable? So 'causing' the American portion only to be for sale NOW makes the purchase more affordable to Eller?

Id also like to know why Schumer, given his position, was not aware of this deal prior to being confronted about it?

anyone?

[Logical me]

You obviously don't understand the implications. First, we have now insulted an Arabic Nation. Maybe you should look more closely at their culture. A slap in the face is very devastating..

Second, we need them. If we are ever going to win the war on terror, we must somehow create an evolution from the deep rooted ideology of the Arabs to a more understand and tolerance to Western culture. Very few Arabic countries have shown so much promise.

Third, the more economic ties we have with the Arabic nations, the more our security is guaranteed. Those that invest in us want, above all, to protect their interest. There is much more to consider, but this may have set the WOT back a few years. Wake up.

[Earthdweller]

"A failed port management business deal is irrelevant in the grander scheme."

Oh so the whole country was busting a blood vessel yesterday over just some little "soon to be forgotten" port deal......right.

Now it's just a "business deal". Yesterday it was "The Arabs are coming!! The Arabs are coming!!".

There was that little old lady from the nursing home who signed up just to post a entire thread in all cap locks who said," NO WAY AM I LETTING MY PORTS BE TAKEN OVER BY SOME STINKING MUSLIMS!!!"..well...she might forget, but it will only be the dementia setting in.

[ARCADIA]

Third, the more economic ties we have with the Arabic nations, the more our security is guaranteed.

It sure didn't help Israel with their Palestinian problem. What examples can you give for your rather impulsive suggestion?

This is a predominantly a religious and philosophical problem; the economics are not going to change any of the attitudes; and never have.

[shield]

NO....I disagree with you....congress was disgraceful, IMHO.

[Prokopton]

The pages you cite are most telling. The articles quote the Council on Foreign Policy, the Economic Strategy Institute and Ned Walker. Yes, that Ned Walker, Clinton's former Ambassador, president of the Middle East Institute, a notorious pro-arab think tank and a U.S. basher in his own right.
If these are the people you are using to support your position you might be more comfortable at DU>

[Solson]

Israel, Saudi Arabia and the UAE are the top three trading partners with the US from the Middle East. Each represents about $10B in trade annually.

If the UAE trading diminishes or goes away, is that good or bad for US Security interests?

[LibLieSlayer]

The more they stir it, the more it stinks!

LLS

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You obviously don't understand the implications. First, we have now insulted an Arabic Nation. Maybe you should look more closely at their culture. A slap in the face is very devastating..

They can take it. They're big boys.

Global politics and global industry play hardball. Sometimes things don’t work out the way you like. You need to get over it and continue to do business.

Dubai needs our military in their ports to provide security and stability in their country. This stability allows them to make billions in tourism and banking industries.

They are not the easily bruised girly men who seem to imagine. They are not going to cry and sulk in the corner.

And they are most certainly not going to kick our navy out of their ports in a pique of self-righteous insult. There are billions of dollars on the line, and they are not as stupid as you seem to think.

[Just mythoughts]

"If, in the end they get this deal, there should be a serious examination of the money trail from Eller to Schumer, Clinton, et al."


Ha, don't count on it the Republicans aren't about to investigate how they got snookered.

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I don't even know what you're talking about. You seem a bit hysterical.