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Wife faces penalties for displaying patriotic sign [ Florida]
Herald Wire Services ^ | Mar. 10, 2006

Posted on 03/10/2006 7:00:03 AM PST by ncountylee

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To: kx9088

Not ours. We put our Bush/Cheney signs and red white and blue very large stars in our front window and no one said a thing about that. That is INSIDE YOUR OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY.


41 posted on 03/10/2006 7:53:06 AM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than we will ever know. Thanks, Rush!)
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To: kx9088

Not ours. We put our Bush/Cheney signs and red white and blue very large stars in our front window and no one said a thing about that. That is INSIDE YOUR OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY.


42 posted on 03/10/2006 7:53:06 AM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than we will ever know. Thanks, Rush!)
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To: kx9088

Not ours. We put our Bush/Cheney signs and red white and blue very large stars in our front window and no one said a thing about that. That is INSIDE YOUR OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY.


43 posted on 03/10/2006 7:53:10 AM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than we will ever know. Thanks, Rush!)
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To: MineralMan
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There's got to be more to this story, or somebody is exaggerating.

44 posted on 03/10/2006 7:53:19 AM PST by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: desertlily

That's pretty out there.


45 posted on 03/10/2006 7:53:53 AM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than we will ever know. Thanks, Rush!)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Why not put out a sign that says "For Rent by a person who" and then paste in the sign that says "Support Our Troops" with an "S" painted into the location. Just because she advertises the house is for rent doesn't mean she has to rent it.



First, you can bet that the HOA has limits on the size and location of such signs.

Second, if it was not a bona-fide offer to rent, they would have a case against her.

Third, many HOAs prohibit the renting of homes.

But I agree with you. She should have found a way to express herself without violating the rules she agreed to, and benefits from in other important respects.


46 posted on 03/10/2006 7:54:02 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: ncountylee

Unfortunate but those who seek ownership in a neighborhood with a homeowner's association seek it because there are asthetic restrictions that make the neighborhood look nice.

It doesn't matter what the sign is.


47 posted on 03/10/2006 7:56:06 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: Crispus Attucks Patriot
On his own land, yes...but not on the land of his neighbor(s).

HOAs are the definition of local governance. There are advantages in asthetic guidelines for a neighborhood, and some people choose to live under them. If you want signs in the yard, you have to live where there is no neighborhood restriction against them... or unkept lawns and junk cars in the yard or hogs in the back yard.

48 posted on 03/10/2006 8:00:19 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: ncountylee
This is one of those emotional deals that can lead us astray. The left uses that tactic frequently and successfully.

Both husband and wife knew the rules before they bought/made and placed the sign. How would they feel about a Code Pink neighbor putting out a sign that said, "We support the troops when they kill their leaders."?

49 posted on 03/10/2006 8:01:00 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: SoothingDave
Probably because people are allowed to voluntarily join such things. If people in a community want to cede their property rights to such a board, there is no legal reason they can not do this.

Damn it, its just so un-American! Personally, I like knowing my neighbor won't be parking a boat, RV, '82 Chevy up on blocks, or any other piece of junk that won't de-value my property.

50 posted on 03/10/2006 8:02:42 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: cubreporter

Ours, they strictly prohibit anything deemed "unsightly" be visible from outside.


51 posted on 03/10/2006 8:03:03 AM PST by kx9088
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To: delacoert
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There's got to be more to this story, or somebody is exaggerating.

Yeah, really...that sounds like BS...

52 posted on 03/10/2006 8:06:16 AM PST by TampaDude (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the PROBLEM!!!)
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To: Beelzebubba

Absolutely not. This is a free country where people can still express their views.

BTW, These huge corporations who subdivide should lose ALL rights to the property once the deed is transferred.

This is NOT the way America used to be, nor was it what our Founding Fathers intended it to be. HOA's are fascistic if promulgated by corporations just intent on maximizing profits at the expense of liberty and freedom. That's the sort of corporate behavior one would expect in Il Duce's Italy.

You're so defenseive over this, dawg. You wouldn't be on a board or the chairman of one of these lil' Gaus, now would you?


53 posted on 03/10/2006 8:15:30 AM PST by Crispus Attucks Patriot (The first to give his life for your liberty was a Black man!)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Local governance, huh?

Chartered by WHOM? Voted on by WHOM?

And IF they are in fact duly constitutied governments, doesn't the First Amendment disallow abridgement of free speech?

I know I would refuse to sign such an agreement, and I wouldn't wish to live in such a Stepford-Collectivist community.

I love freedom and liberty too much to voluntarily give one iota of it up.


54 posted on 03/10/2006 8:19:22 AM PST by Crispus Attucks Patriot (The first to give his life for your liberty was a Black man!)
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To: MineralMan

Unfortunately, most of these groups, like condo and co-op boards, attract the "Little Hitler" personality types.

HL Mencken said it best, "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.


55 posted on 03/10/2006 8:22:45 AM PST by Crispus Attucks Patriot (The first to give his life for your liberty was a Black man!)
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To: Crispus Attucks Patriot

HOA are merely contracts between participants, entered into willingly when you buy the property. The board and all leadership is elected from the members of the neighborhood. If you don't like it, don't buy property there. If you're a member and don't like the rules, run for the board.


56 posted on 03/10/2006 8:23:07 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: Samurai_Jack
Sell the house to some trashy bums that would paint it hot pink.

Payback can be fun.

57 posted on 03/10/2006 8:25:12 AM PST by chemicalman (Many have skeletons in their closets. In New Orleans, we have skeletons in our attics.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Those boards can change the rules at any time.

They're un-American, and anyone who believes in them is a statist. They should never be allowed to exist in the first place for anyone to voluntarily join.


58 posted on 03/10/2006 8:26:43 AM PST by Crispus Attucks Patriot (The first to give his life for your liberty was a Black man!)
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To: Crispus Attucks Patriot
They should never be allowed to exist in the first place for anyone to voluntarily join.

Heh... Is this the only part of contract law you'd like to eliminate, or should free people be limited from any other kind of voluntary agreements?

59 posted on 03/10/2006 8:29:14 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: HairOfTheDog

When contracts are encroachments on fundamental liberties, absolutely.

BTW, Professor Corbin was an anti-freedom moron, too.

Not only do you sound like a statist, you also sound like an authoritarian, as well.


60 posted on 03/10/2006 8:33:30 AM PST by Crispus Attucks Patriot (The first to give his life for your liberty was a Black man!)
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