Cruise woman 'warned of men'

News.com.au ^ | March 10, 2006 | Adam Gartrell

[son of caesar]

Frankly speaking, I believe that there are lots of people who wish to have these sexual predators loose and among us. These peoples only goal is to sexually hurt other people, yet society at large continually lets them out into their hunting areas for further action. I dare you to tell me I wrong on this.

[Potowmack]

Now about liberal women, who really cares? Any lib female would go cheerfully with eight men to a sexual party, heck, thats liberalism to the core.

You're clearly quite ignorant, or are just trolling.

[pageonetoo]

...Our guests' enjoyment are our most important purpose. For the safety of all the common areas have closed circuit security."

The cameras are already there, on almost all cruise ships. YOU CANNOT PROTECT ANYONE ANYWHERE, WHEN THE PREDATOR'S GOAL IS TO DO HARM TO ANOTHER! A camera is not a substitute for good sense.

I am not blaming the victim, but if you hang out in ANY place drinking with strangers, this can happen.

It is easy to be wary, anywhere. It is bad to get attacked, killed or raped, and it happens everywhere...

[Potowmack]

Frankly speaking, I believe that there are lots of people who wish to have these sexual predators loose and among us.

Lots of people? LOL. You realize the rate of sex crimes in this country has been going down for the last decade or so?

These peoples only goal is to sexually hurt other people, yet society at large continually lets them out into their hunting areas for further action. I dare you to tell me I wrong on this.

You're wrong on this.

[razorback-bert]

Alaska cruises are great, going again in September for 14 days on board the Summit.

[son of caesar]

No, it is you who is wrong and obviously deluded too. It is a well known fact that sexual predators are routinely released to commit these types of crimes over and over. If you dont know this, you need to come out from under your rock more often.

[thinking]

Women go on cruises to meet "men"....men go on cruises to meet women....cruise companies encourage the social side of the cruise...it all says sex....nothing new here, it is the same as college...

[Mr. Jeeves]

This reminds me of the strange way a young muslim, who works out at the same gym I go to, stares at some of the attractive females. (co-ed workout facility). He doesn't seem to understand how uncomfortable it makes them........Crude dude.

It isn't just Muslims - I've seen Russian and Eastern European immigrant men do the same thing all the time, in grocery stores and other public places. They have the courage but are inconsiderate - "boorish" is the only word for it. It's just a totally different culture - and the opposite extreme from the American white men who have become so scared by the predominant feminist culture that they are extremely considerate toward women but have no courage - they won't even dare make eye contact. They just come on FR and complain about how mean American women are to them. ;)

[Gone GF]

"Frankly speaking, I believe that there are lots of people who wish to have these sexual predators loose and among us. These peoples only goal is to sexually hurt other people, yet society at large continually lets them out into their hunting areas for further action. I dare you to tell me I wrong on this."

You're wrong about this.

You're either trolling or ignorant.

[son of caesar]

No, you are wrong. Sexual predators are released and have the highest recidivism rate of all violent crimes. Why else do you think they have to put these people up in hotels and move them around all the time? No community wants them. Do some research and become better informed, you sound very ignorant. We can clearly see with the church cases that the predators are out in society after a few short years if they do any jail time at all. That is but one recent example.

[pageonetoo]

I recommend an Alaskan cruise. The people who go on these cruises are usually older and wealthier and the scenery in Alaska is fantastic.

I agree about Alaska, but the CRUISE LINE which you choose also has a lot to do with the clientele. I prefer Celebrity and MSC. They are upscale, and so are most of the travelers. There are many more exclusive (translate EXPENSIVE) alternatives, as well, if it's riff-raff for which you are concerned. But I have seen drunks from all the spectrums, and they are still boorish and obnoxious.

I like re-positioning cruises for a great experience. You genereally get a longer cruise, at a fabulous price. In addition, since they leave from one port, and end in another, there are less people.

I was looking at an MSC cruise, for SEVENTEEN NIGHTS for $1195 (inside, pp plus air, taxes and fees). MSC Lirica leaves Ft. Lauderdale and ends in Genoa, in early May. Return Airfare is pretty cheap, too. since it ends in Italy, the trip is easily extended to visit sites there. I even have a guy just north of Rome who provides lodging and tours, along with visits to local ristorantes in his area.

[American Vet Repairman]

I used to a bouncer in a bar. When we let the newbie young lassies in I would tell them only accept a drink from a waitress or bartender and do not leave a drink alone. My advice always went unheeded.

One night a lady fell out in the bar. She was roofed and the guy that slipped it to her left the bar in the middle of the commotion. The biggest problem is that some women are too damn arrogant to think that they can be raped.

Cameras only limit the target of opportunity types. But it does give a potential perp a warning on public conduct.

[Potowmack]

It is a well known fact that sexual predators are routinely released to commit these types of crimes over and over.

As with many "well-known facts," this fact is wrong.

[Blue Jays]

Hi yankeedame-

"...OMG, please, please, please don't let cruises go the way of air travel!..."

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In 1999 I was flying from San Francisco to New York when the passenger assigned to the seat next to me arrived wearing shorts, a tanktop, and flip-flops. Ewwwww!

The flight attendants wisely bumped me to first-class because they could sense I was going to raise all sorts of holy hell. Why would they permit that ill-mannered person to even board the airplane? Basic rules should include no exposed armpits and firmly fastened shoes in case an evacuation is necessary.

The cruises I have taken have all been very nice and enjoyable. Let's hope they don't slide downmarket. That's when terrible things start to happen, like the story about this woman.

~ Blue Jays ~

[Potowmack]

No, you are wrong. Sexual predators are released and have the highest recidivism rate of all violent crimes. ffender Myths and Facts

Another common myth. Sex offenders actually have a lower recidivism rate than other crimes.

Sex Offender Myths and Facts

[pageonetoo]

The flight attendants wisely bumped me to first-class because they could sense I was going to raise all sorts of holy hell.

so, I guess you have felt better if she had on a burka?

How did these flight attendants "sense" your ire? Not everyone is as sophisticated, nor pretend...

[Ghengis]

Please read my post carefully before you attack me. I was not referring to this woman at all, since I do not know her nor do I know how she behaves. Thats no. 1. Now as to your no.2, get a life please, it is liberals who do not want to punish the types that use such things as date rape drugs, you see, in my world you would die if you use such a thing, get it? Your no. 3. Irrelevant as you are speaking of one person while I was speaking generally, not about this one woman

You posted: Now about liberal women, who really cares? Any lib female would go cheerfully with eight men to a sexual party, heck, thats liberalism to the core.

I would take from your post:
1. We do not need to care about sexual assault and murder against "liberal women"
2. Any liberal woman is a slut who would hop into an 8 man gang bang without a second thought

I read your post and I'm disgusted.

I know many liberal women, some of whom are in my immediate family. The way you describe them is inaccurate and would deservedly get you a kick in the nuts from many of them. What you posted is very small minded.

[dmz]

You dont want the truth, you cant take the truth.
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LOL. Your lame attempt at a Jack Nicholson impersonation is too funny.

Does your dad know you are using his freeper handle today?

[Blue Jays]

Hi pageonetoo-

First of all, it was a man in his late-30's to early-40's who was dressed in the shorts, tanktop, and flip-flops. The flight attendants obviously determined there was a vast difference in our sense of sophistication. To eliminate any difficulties, they wisely moved me to the front of the plane. That was intelligent and proactive customer service on their part. They're a credit to their employer and I thanked them.

If you are a travel agent in the hospitality industry, why would you support "downgrades" in the way people comport themselves while traveling? There is no pleasure associated with traveling in an airplane with people wearing clothes that aren't even suitable for a backyard barbecue.

~ Blue Jays ~

[pageonetoo]

If you are a travel agent in the hospitality industry, why would you support "downgrades" in the way people comport themselves while traveling?

I don't support them, but I also can't teach people proper ettiquette. I give my folks a handout, which tells them how they should dress and answer other facts for them. But, I can't make them read it, nor follow the instructions.

I have traveled extensively, and have seen a lot of strange/amusing/scary. Have you ever traveled along with a real pig? You haven't "lived" until you have shared a train cabin with a two-legged on, and a four-legged one, and had no other choice but stay behind!

I just don't get upset because someone is not dressed to my standards. I would much rather sit next to him, than a drunk!