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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Thirty-Five

Posted on 03/09/2006 10:08:04 PM PST by nwctwx

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Time flies.

Differing reports on 2004 Egypt aircrash provoke uproar

CAIRO -- Egypt and France gave differing explanations on Saturday for a 2004 airplane crash that killed 148 people shortly after takeoff from a Red Sea resort, one exonerating the pilot and the other blaming him.
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One journalist from the state-run Al Ahram daily interrupted Arslanian and demanded to Kelada: "How can the French accuse the pilot when you just said it was not his fault?"

Arslanian attempted to explain further but the journalist repeatedly interrupted him, finally shouting: "It has to be said clearly that the accident was due to a technical failure and not the pilot's fault."

The reporter continued: "It is through these kinds of rumors that people begin to say Egyptian pilots are Islamist suicide attackers." (snip)
http://metimes.com/articles/normal.php?StoryID=20060325-035828-6823r


1,761 posted on 03/25/2006 1:28:33 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: backhoe; Cindy; freeperfromnj; ExSoldier; Velveeta; MamaDearest; nw_arizona_granny; SlowBoat407; ...

>> That "Camp Jihada" info is kind of disturbing, especially in light of what we have seen in Oregon earlier. It appears that the Wolf is not outside the door, but in it. <<

Hi backhoe,
If the Camp Jihada info makes you nervous, the info we don't have privy to would scare the bejebers out of us all.

Make no mistake, the wolf IS in the door. He's been here for a while - watching, planning, preparing.

I want to share something that was sent to me. It's long but well worth the read. It may help with planning to cope with what is to come. It's got me re-evaluating my plans.

Whe it comes to preparedness there are 2 kinds of people - ants and grasshoppers. The ants are preparing and have the necessary supplies stored away. The grasshoppers are not worried about it. When the 'ballon goes up', the grasshoppers will be knocking on the ants doors for help. The ants will need to send the grasshoppers away - by force if necessary.

I'm not the most social of folk. I don't know too many folks and I don't care to. Of my few friends in this area, NONE of them are taking the threats seriously and they are not prepared to survive on their own; however, they know I am.

They will come to me for help and I will send them away with a warning not to return. Yes, it's beyond harsh. They had the time to preapre for the threats but willingly chose to ignore it. Likewise I will ignore their pleas for help. No sympathy. ANY incursions will be met with leathal force - whether I know them or not.

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This was on The High Road forum. It's pretty good and should come close to your list in some respects but be different in others....


Lessons learned from recent New Orleans "Bug-Outs"
I've had over 30 people staying with me since Sunday, evacuating from New Orleans and points south in anticipation of Hurricane Katrina. Only two families were my friends: they told other friends of theirs that
they knew a place where they could hole up, and so a whole bunch arrived here! I didn't mind, because there were six RV's and travel trailers, so we had enough accommodation. However, I've had the opportunity to see what worked - and what didn't - in their evacuation plans and bug-out kits, and I thought a few "lessons learned" might be appropriate for the forum.

1. Have a bug-out kit ready at all times. Many of these folks packed at the last minute, grabbing whatever they thought they'd need. Needless to say, they forgot some important things (prescription medications, important documents, baby formula, diapers, etc.). Some of
these things (e.g. prescriptions) obviously can't be stocked up against possible emergency need, but you can at least have a list in your bug-out kit of what to grab at the last minute before you leave!

2. Renew supplies in your bug-out kit on a regular basis. Batteries lose their charge. Foods have an expiry date. So do common medications. Clothes can get moldy or dirty unless properly stored. All of these problems were found with the folks who kept backup or bug-out supplies
on hand, and caused difficulties for them.

3. Plan on needing a LOT more supplies than you think. I found myself with over 30 people on hand, many of whom were not well supplied: and the stores were swamped with literally thousands of refugees, buying up everything in sight. I had enough supplies to keep myself going for 30
days. Guess what? Those supplies ended up keeping 30-odd people going for two days. I now know that I must plan on providing for not just myself, but others in need. I could have been selfish and said "No, these are mine" - but what good would that do in a real disaster? Someone would just try to take them, and then we'd have all the resulting unpleasantness. Far better to have extra supplies to share
with others, whilst keeping your own core reserve intact (and, preferably, hidden from prying eyes!).

4. In a real emergency, forget about last-minute purchases. As I said earlier, the stores were swamped by thousands of refugees, as well as locals buying up last-minute supplies. If I hadn't had my emergency supplies already in store, I would never have been able to buy them at the last minute. If I'd had to hit the road, the situation would have been even worse, as I'd be part of a stream of thousands of refugees, most of whom would be buying (or stealing) what they needed before I got to the store.

5. Make sure your vehicle will carry your essential supplies. Some of the folks who arrived at my place had tried to load up their cars with a humongous amount of stuff, only to find that they didn't have space for themselves! Pets are a particular problem here, as they have to have air and light, and can't be crammed into odd corners. If you have to carry a lot of supplies and a number of people, invest in a small luggage trailer or something similar (or a small travel trailer with space for your goodies) - it'll pay dividends if the S really does HTF.

6. A big bug-out vehicle can be a handicap. Some of the folks arrived here with big pick-ups or SUV's, towing equally large travel trailers. Guess what? - on some evacuation routes, these huge combinations could not navigate corners very well, and/or were so difficult to turn that they ran into things (including other vehicles, which were NOT about to make way in the stress of an evacuation!). This led to hard feelings, harsh words, and at least one fist-fight. It's not a bad idea to have smaller, more manoeverable vehicles, and a smaller travel trailer, so that one can "squeeze through" in a tight traffic situation. Another point: a big SUV or pickup burns a lot of fuel. This is bad news when there's no fuel available! (See point 10 below.)

7. Make sure you have a bug-out place handy. I was fortunate in having enough ground (about 1.8 acres) to provide parking for all these RV's and trailers, and to accommodate 11 small children in my living-room so that the adults could get some sleep on Sunday night, after many hours on the road in very heavy, slow-moving traffic.
However, if I hadn't had space, I would have unhesitatingly told the extra families to find somewhere else - and there wasn't anywhere else here, that night. Even shops like Wal-Mart and K-Mart had trailers and
RV's backed up in their parking lots (which annoyed the heck out of shoppers trying to make last-minute purchases). Even on my property, I had no trailer sewage connections, so I had to tell the occupants that
if they used their onboard toilets and showers, they had to drive their RV's and trailers somewhere else to empty their waste tanks. If they hadn't left this morning, they would have joined long, long lines to do this at local trailer parks (some of which were so overloaded by
visiting trailers and RV's that they refused to allow passers-by to use their dumping facilities).

8. Provide entertainment for younger children. Some of these families had young children (ranging from 3 months to 11 years). They had DVD's, video games, etc. - but no power available in their trailers to show them! They had no coloring books, toys, etc. to keep the kids occupied.
This was a bad mistake.

9. Pack essentials first, then luxuries. Many of these folks had packed mattresses off beds, comforters, cushions, bathrobes, etc. As a result, their vehicles were grossly overloaded, but often lacked real essentials like candles, non-perishable foods, etc. One family (both parents are gourmet cooks) packed eighteen (yes, EIGHTEEN!!!) special pots and pans, which they were going to use on a two-burner camp stove... They were horrified by my suggestion that under the circumstances, a nested stainless-steel camping cookware set would be
rather more practical. "What?

No omelette pan?" Sheesh...

10. Don't plan on fuel being available en route. A number of my visitors had real problems finding gas to fill up on the road. With thousands of vehicles jammed nose-to-tail on four lanes of interstate, an awful lot of vehicles needed gas. By the time you got to a gas station, you were highly likely to find it sold out - or charging
exorbitant prices, because the owners knew you didn't have any choice but to pay what they asked.

Much better to leave with a full tank of gas, and enough in spare containers to fill up on the road, if you have to, in order to reach your destination.

11. Have enough money with you for at least two weeks. Many of those who arrived here had very little in cash, relying on check-books and credit cards to fund their purchases. Guess what? Their small banks down in South Louisiana were all off-line, and their balances, credit
authorizations, etc. could not be checked - so many shops refused to accept their checks, and insisted on electronic verification before accepting their credit cards. Local banks also refused (initially) to cash checks for them, since they couldn't check the status of their accounts on-line. Eventually (and very grudgingly) local banks began
allowing them to cash checks for not more than $50-$100, depending on the bank. Fortunately, I have a reasonable amount of cash available at all times, so I was able to help some of them. I'm now going to increase my cash on hand, I think... Another thing - don't bring only
large bills. Many gas stations, convenience stores, etc. won't accept anything larger than a $20 bill. Some of my guests had plenty of $100 bills, but couldn't buy anything.

12. Don't be sure that a disaster will be short-term. My friends have left now, heading south to Baton Rouge. They want to be closer to home for whenever they're allowed to return. Unfortunately for them, the Governor has just announced the mandatory, complete evacuation of New Orleans, and there's no word on when they will be allowed back. It will certainly be several weeks, and it might be several months. During that period, what they have with them - essential documents, clothing, etc.
- is all they have. They'll have to find new doctors to renew prescriptions; find a place to live (a FEMA trailer if they're lucky - thousands of families will be lining up for these trailers); some way to earn a living (their jobs are gone with New Orleans, and I don't see their employers paying them for not working when the employers aren't making money either); and so on.

13. Don't rely on government-run shelters if at all possible. Your weapons WILL be confiscated (yes, including pocket-knives, kitchen knives, and Leatherman-type tools); you will be crowded into close proximity with anyone and everyone (including some nice folks, but also including drug addicts, released convicts, gang types, and so on); you will be under the authority of the people running the shelter, who WILL call on law enforcement and military personnel to keep order (including stopping you leaving if you want to); and so on. Much, much better to have a place to go to, a plan to get there, and the supplies you need
to do so on your own.

14. Warn your friends not to bring others with them!!! I had told two friends to bring themselves and their families to my home. They, unknown to me, told half-a-dozen other families to come too - "He's a good guy, I'm sure he won't mind!" Well, I did mind... but since the
circumstances weren't personally dangerous, I allowed them all to hang around. However, if things had been worse, I would have been very nasty indeed to their friends (and even nastier to them, for inviting others without clearing it with me first!). If you are a place of refuge for your friends, make sure they know that this applies to them ONLY, not their other friends. Similarly, if you have someone willing to offer you refuge, don't presume on his/her hospitality by arriving with others unforewarned.


1,762 posted on 03/25/2006 1:46:35 PM PST by appalachian_dweller (Get Prepared. Stay Prepared. See my FR Homepage for a list of actions and supplies.)
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To: Velveeta

I don't recall the color of the bull, but the "bull," in my opinion was a symbol for wallstreet.
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ON THE NET...

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1,763 posted on 03/25/2006 2:05:33 PM PST by Cindy
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And one more thing for all us hunters - don't count on wild life to feed you, big game populations will be decimated in a matter of weeks. Any farms with cattle will be swapped as well.

All this has rendered my plans unworkable. Too many people know of 'the cabin' and the place will be swapped with panicked and unprepared people who will show up with NOTHING and EXPECT to be cared for.
1,764 posted on 03/25/2006 2:06:45 PM PST by appalachian_dweller (Get Prepared. Stay Prepared. See my FR Homepage for a list of actions and supplies.)
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THANKS AD.

I appreciate you sharing that.


1,765 posted on 03/25/2006 2:08:18 PM PST by Cindy
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"The Ethnic Cleansing of Iraq's Christians
New Republic ^ | March 23, 2006 | Lawrence F. Kaplan"

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1,766 posted on 03/25/2006 2:13:05 PM PST by Cindy
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http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060325/METRO/603250439/1003

"Young man killed when explosive goes off in his hands
Police to detonate other grenades on Belle Isle"
Jon Zemke / Special to detnews.com
Advertisement

ARTICLE SNIPPET: "DETROIT - An 18-year-old Detroit man is dead after an explosive device detonated in his hands inside his home on the city’s west side early Friday morning.

Officers from the Detroit Police Department Explosive Unit and ATF removed two more explosive devices this morning from the house on Calvert Street, near the intersection of Linwood and Chicago.
Investigators described the devices as grenade type casings packed with black powder and a fuse. They were taken to Belle Isle where they will be safely exploded."

ARTICLE SNIPPET #2: "Christina and Sean Noel said the young man, whom they identified as Dejuan Noel, didn’t commit suicide. They added that he wasn’t distressed over the fight with his girlfriend."


1,767 posted on 03/25/2006 2:21:33 PM PST by Cindy
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NOTE: The following text is a quote:
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Woman cleared in fatal shooting
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | March 25, 2006 | Theodore Decker

Posted on 03/25/2006 2:42:34 PM PST by Boston Blackie

Before she fired the fatal shot, Shanon Barnhouse repeatedly warned the stranger on her Franklinton porch that she had a gun and, if he didn’t back off, she’d use it.

John Chandler, 19, kept coming, a county prosecutor said. And when he was a few feet from Barnhouse, she fired.

A grand jury decided yesterday not to indict Barnhouse, 29, on any charges. Franklin County Assistant Prosecuting Attorney Casey Lee said it’s clear that Barnhouse acted in self-defense when she shot Chandler on March 17. She said the original murder charge will be dismissed.

(Excerpt) Read more at dispatch.com ...


1,768 posted on 03/25/2006 2:46:02 PM PST by Cindy
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"Don't go to Paris warning"
The Sun ^ | March 25, 2006 | PETER ALLEN

Posted on 03/25/2006 2:45:16 PM PST by Leisler

"BRITONS have been warned: Stay away from riot-torn Paris."

ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The Foreign Office says the French capital — which has been rocked by violent demos — is too dangerous."


1,769 posted on 03/25/2006 2:49:43 PM PST by Cindy
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COMMENTARY ON THE NET...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1603079/posts

"Fed-up patriots unite against Jimmy Carter"
WorldNetDaily ^ | 03/24/2007 | Melanie Morgan

Posted on 03/25/2006 2:33:31 PM PST by Impeach98



.....

Posted: March 24, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

COMMENTARY SNIPPET: "Last week, I wrote in this column that if the members of Congress had an itchy finger to censure someone, they should start by censuring an individual who has routinely sought to undermine U.S. foreign policy interests. That man is the disgraced former President Jimmy Carter.

This week, I am pleased to announce that the "Censure Jimmy Carter" campaign is now up and running in response to your outcry for action. You can sign the petition to compel Congress to pass a resolution censuring Carter at the website www.CensureCarter.com.

I wrote the "Censuring Jimmy Carter" column in part for therapeutic reasons. I've had enough of Jimmy Carter supporting the causes of terrorists and terrorist organizations while constantly trashing the United States. And what's more, I've had enough with him being celebrated by the "Blame America First" crowd for such shameful conduct."


1,770 posted on 03/25/2006 2:59:32 PM PST by Cindy
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ON THE NET...

http://www.rewardsforjustice.net/images/elbaneh1.jpg
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WANTED

Jaber A. Elbaneh
Up to $5 Million Reward

Date of birth: September 9, 1966
Place of birth: Yemen
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 200 lbs
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Brown
Sex: Male
Occupations: Salesman, Taxi Driver.
Aliases: Jaber A. Elbanelt, Jaben A. Elbanelt, Jabor Elbaneh, Abu Jubaer, Jubaer Elbaneh, "Jubair"

Jaber A. Elbaneh is wanted in connection with a federal criminal complaint unsealed on May 21, 2003, in the Western District of New York, Buffalo, New York. He is charged with providing material support to a terrorist organization and conspiring to provide material support, specifically to Al-Qaeda.

Elbaneh is believed to have fled the United States and is still thought to be outside the country.

http://www.rewardsforjustice.net/english/wanted_captured/index.cfm?page=Elbaneh


1,771 posted on 03/25/2006 3:09:25 PM PST by Cindy
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To: LucyT
"In charge of protecting Americans against this war is 36-year-old Julie Myers, to whom President Bush gave a recess appointment after her Senate confirmation bogged down because of her total lack of law-enforcement experience.
Her qualifications are her connections: she is the niece of former Joint Chiefs Chairman Richard Myers and the wife of Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff's chief of staff. "

Well that splains it all. People make jokes out of saying we are doomed but we are if we don't get rid of this bunch and get someone in who is not afraid [or getting paid off] to protect our land!

1,772 posted on 03/25/2006 3:18:38 PM PST by WestCoastGal (My crew didn't build this car to play follow the leader" -Dale Jr [ Chassis: #006 Bristol Aug 04!! :)
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To: Godzilla

bttt


1,773 posted on 03/25/2006 3:30:19 PM PST by Deetes (God Bless the Troops)
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To: appalachian_dweller

Good thoughts passed along there a_d.

If the big one happens we will all be in trouble like the ants and the grasshoppers.

We are lucky where we are, I feel safe here. But if the mexicans overrun the border then I don't know.


1,774 posted on 03/25/2006 3:52:38 PM PST by WestCoastGal (My crew didn't build this car to play follow the leader" -Dale Jr [ Chassis: #006 Bristol Aug 04!! :)
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The following story make me wonder if the stolen baby food...Red Bull...etc., could be part of a similar poisoning plot. This should also give pause to those who purchase food from street vendors.

Al Qaeda Tested Poison Beer, Burger Plot (UK - 3/25/06)

(CBS) LONDON An alleged al Qaeda terrorist plotting a bomb attack on Britain told accomplices to sell contaminated beer at soccer games or poisoned hamburgers from street vending stalls, an FBI informant told a court Friday.

Waheed Mahmood, 34, accused with six other British men of plotting a terror strike, claimed during a meeting in Pakistan that he had already tested the poison plan, said the witness, Mohammed Junaid Babar...

Link to Article

1,775 posted on 03/25/2006 3:52:52 PM PST by all4one
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To: Oorang
Interesting links you posted - particularly this part...

Psychologist to cleric: Muslims are barbaric / Yaakov Lappin - Arab-American psychologist makes explosive TV appearance on Al-Jazeera, tells cleric: 'Clash is between those who treat woman like beasts and those who treat them like human beings'

1,776 posted on 03/25/2006 4:13:31 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: Velveeta
****the Saudi government, which will send about 6,000 students to American universities this year**** No press, TV or radio coverage of this. There seem to be no statistics available on how many abuse their Student Visas and disappear into the American sunset.

Of course, each of those 6,000 students is enamored of America and all things American, right? None with a grudge against our country and it's citizens most assuredly.....? (well, they might tell us that they don't). What's that Arabic word for patronizing us to get what they want?

1,777 posted on 03/25/2006 4:22:45 PM PST by MamaDearest
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SNIPPET: "The following story make me wonder if the stolen baby food...Red Bull...etc., could be part of a similar poisoning plot. This should also give pause to those who purchase food from street vendors."

OPINION: That's good you are thinking out of the box, all4one. I hope all our alphabet agencies are doing the same thing.

In my opinion, I believe that the baby formula and the Red Bull are probably being used for terrorist financing. HOWEVER, my opinion could be wrong because I don't know what is going on in the thiefs minds.


1,778 posted on 03/25/2006 4:29:04 PM PST by Cindy
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To: LucyT
In charge of protecting Americans against this war is 36-year-old Julie Myers, to whom President Bush gave a recess appointment after her Senate confirmation bogged down because of her total lack of law-enforcement experience.

Her qualifications are her connections: she is the niece of former Joint Chiefs Chairman Richard Myers and the wife of Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff's chief of staff.

Nepotism at it's best.

1,779 posted on 03/25/2006 4:33:12 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: WestCoastGal
That email gave me pause WCG. I THOUGHT I had a good plan. I do have some provisions stashed away at 'the cabin'. Considering how may folks would show up unprepared, I have to rethink my plans.

I've spoken with another friend about positioning some supplies at his place and he has agreed. It's always good to have options so I'll go ahead and position some supplies there. The only draw back is that he has no knowledge of firearms or how to use them. I can teach him to shoot, but I don't know how he'd perform in a combat situation. He has expressed in interest in learning to shoot so I will teach him, but would he be willing to kill in his (and my) defense? BIG question.
1,780 posted on 03/25/2006 4:44:14 PM PST by appalachian_dweller (Get Prepared. Stay Prepared. See my FR Homepage for a list of actions and supplies.)
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