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1 posted on 03/09/2006 7:44:03 PM PST by KevinDavis
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2 posted on 03/09/2006 7:44:58 PM PST by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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The NASA program is the law of the land. Contracts are being let, more every day. It's not too late to get on the list.


3 posted on 03/09/2006 7:46:37 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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I want to see the Moon Cat


4 posted on 03/09/2006 7:46:48 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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More annoying drug stores on every crater.


10 posted on 03/09/2006 8:04:41 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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But,but I feeell we could give those poorr people on the dole a huge raise instead of using it for exploration. /S
12 posted on 03/09/2006 8:07:21 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the rear, or a Fool from any side.”)
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Bono Manned Mars Vehicle

Bono Mars
Bono Mars
Credit: © Mark Wade
Class: Manned. Type: Mars Expedition. Destination: Mars. Nation: USA. Manufacturer: Boeing.

In 1960 Philip Bono, then working at Boeing, proposed a single-launch Mars manned expedition. Bono's scenario was the classic trade-off of weight for risk. However it was feasible, and showed that Mars expeditions need not be assembled by multiple launches in earth orbit.

The mission profile was as follows:

* The launch vehicle consists of seven identical Lox/LH2 plug nuzzle boosters. Each module is 8.3 m in diameter and has a thrust of 6700 kN. At the moment of lift-off, on 3 May 1971, the booster is 76 m tall, 25 m in diameter, and has a mass of 3800 tonnes. Through the use of cross-plumbing, all seven modules fire at lift-off, fed from four of the outlying tanks. These four are jettisoned at propellant exhaustion at 60 km altitude. The three remaining engines are fed from the remaining two outer modules. These fire until the propellant is exhausted at 107 km altitude. Finally the core engine fires, using its own propellant, until it has placed the spacecraft on a transMars trajectory.

* The 8-man spacecraft consists of a delta-winged glider, 38 m long and with a wingspan of 29 m. Aft of this is a combined living module and rocket stage, 14 m long and 8.3 m in diameter. After separation of the third stage, a 16 m diameter antenna is deployed. Power is provided by a nuclear reactor in the nose of the glider.

* The spacecraft arrives at Mars on 17 January 1972. As it nears the planet, 9.4 tonnes of trash and sewage is jettisoned. The glider separates from the living module and heads for the Martian atmosphere. The living module brakes into Martian orbit on autopilot.

* Bono assumed an atmospheric pressure of 80 bar in designing the glider (about ten times greater than the value revealed years later by Mariner 4). After re-entry, the glider is slowed by a drag brake, then finally conducts a vertical landing from 600 m altitude using rocket engines.

* After landing, as in Von Braun's scenarios, the crew sets up a base camp. A 2000 kg manned rover emerges. It is used to drag the nuclear reactor a kilometre away from the glider. A 6 m diameter inflating dome provides crew quarters. The 8 men have 479 days to explore the surface.

* To prepare for departure, the crew have to return the reactor to the glider's nose, then pivot the landing engines so that they point aft. The glider is angled up, 15 degrees from the vertical. The forward portion makes a zero-zero lift-off on rocket thrust, flying away from the aft portion and landing skids.

* The glider docks with the living module which has been waiting, vacant, in Mars orbit for 16 months. The living module's rockets are fired and the spacecraft heads back toward earth on 21 May 1973.

* The spacecraft arrives at earth on 24 January 1974. The crew enters the glider and the living module and reactor are jettisoned, to either continue in solar orbit, or burn up in the earth's atmosphere. The glider makes a direct re-entry into the atmosphere, and lands on its skids at a desert strip in the United States.

Bono Manned Mars Vehicle Mission Summary:

* Summary: First serious single-launch Mars expedition design
* Propulsion: LOX/LH2
* Braking at Mars: aerodynamic
* Mission Type: conjuction
* Split or All-Up: all up
* ISRU: no ISRU
* Launch Year: 1971
* Crew: 8
* Mars Surface payload-tonnes: 480
* Outbound time-days: 259
* Mars Stay Time-days: 490
* Return Time-days: 248
* Total Mission Time-days: 997
* Total Payload Required in Low Earth Orbit-tonnes: 800
* Total Propellant Required-tonnes: 500
* Propellant Fraction: 0.62
* Mass per crew-tonnes: 100
* Launch Vehicle Payload to LEO-tonnes: 800
* Number of Launches Required to Assemble Payload in Low Earth Orbit: 1
* Launch Vehicle: Bono HLV


16 posted on 03/09/2006 8:21:45 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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cool


21 posted on 03/09/2006 9:15:22 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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Well, great. And then what??

The problem I have with going to Mars is that beyond being a very expensive publicity stunt, I have yet to see anything that addresses what the benefits will be.

Just what are we getting for the money we are spending on launching a Mission from the bottom of a very deep gravity well, to go touch down at the bottom of yet another deep gravity well? Even if the first thing Mars Explorers found was a 100 Trillion barrel resevoir of the purest Sweet Crude Oil ever found, just how would we get it home??

We know that we can support human life in longterm low Earth orbit. It's time to build on that, and figure out a way to build an ISS that can get underway and go explore something practical, like the Asteroids to see what there is to be used for orbital manufacturing. Why not build a solar powered aluminum smelter at one of the LaGrange points and feed it asteroids to make metal?? A steady supply of relatively cheap metal products, without the need to fit it into the cargo bay of a Shuttle, would be invaluable.

I look at what a single techological achievement, like the Wright Brothers made a century ago, can do to completely revamp our civilization and the way we think about solving different problems. Everything was "impossible" at one time or another...


26 posted on 03/10/2006 7:07:52 AM PST by Bean Counter ("Stout Hearts!")
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