Posted on 03/09/2006 11:44:59 AM PST by cpforlife.org
Didn't know it was all about a woman's choice. Figured the husband/father might have some say in such a decision.
It ain't HER child if it was concieved by evil force. And I'm guessing 80% of women would abort in such circumstances. Anymore than if you were abducted by aliens and they put a ET fetus in your arse.
So, it's a choice, not a child?
Using your logic, any woman whose birth control method fails is entitled to abort, because she did not choose to be impregnated.
Pissant, it's always a child. And your ignorance of biology is stunning.
SD
You are comparing faulty birth control to a crazied animal holding a knife to a woman's throat?
Yup, that must be it.
Fire away, my flame suit is on - I disagree.
While most of this is good information I find the case made regarding Rape/Incest overly simplistic.
I also find the argument that compromise on this one element would make a difference politically to be lacking. I have absolutely no doubt that if the pro-life groups gave in on this issue that the liberals and pro-abortion groups would fall back on something else. I think we all realize that they are hanging on to the rape/incest item strongly and loudly as means to an end, not because this is the only item about which they need resolution. If this were truly the only item in need of resolution I think it would have been addressed long ago.
Crap. The woman didn't "choose" to be impregnated. We're beyond "being reponsible for your own actions" and into the land of "you will be a vessel for the pleasure of a cretinous rapist'. No thanks, this is not a very libertarian thing to force a person to do against their will.
It's a child. Yes they all are. My opinion is different from yours.
If Soothing Dave is impregnated by aliens, is it your child?
If Osama abducts your daughter and has her implanted with His and Helen Thomas' embryo, is it her child?
If the gov't has a program of forcibly impregnating 15 YO girls, is it her child?
Far fetched, huh? Well, none of the above is as F*****G VILE as a gang rape. If you want to convince your wife or daughter to have Ted Buundy's child, fine by me.
The difference between failed birthcontrol in a loving realtionship and a violent rape may be lost on you, but it ain't on me.
Evil people FORCING pregnancy upon a woman is PURE EVIL. And FORCING a woman to carry the child to birth is more than cruel.
You can have your opinion, it bothers me not. But you sure aren't going to change my thinking on the subject.
It is pissant who has embraced the pro-abortion argument that the unborn is only worthy of protection if the mother chooses to consider it so.
It is either a child or a choice.
SD
What is wrong with you pissant? Haven't you been reading this board?
There are no "rape victims" as made clear by the quotes and statements on this board.
They are all adultresses running around with faulty birth control.
And I even saw the sick animals being referred to as FATHER on one post.
Read post 68. It IS a child. I am pro life, ardently so. But some things justify ending that life. Just as I support Capital punishment, even though an innocent will be killed on ocassion. Just as I support leveling Tehran's nuclear program, even though innocent Iranians may die in the process.
Using your logic, any woman whose birth control method fails is entitled to abort, because she did not choose to be impregnated.
Pissant, it's always a child. And your ignorance of biology is stunning.
SD
62 posted on 03/09/2006 5:12:32 PM EST by SoothingDave<--
Yes, you believe some children deserve death.
If Soothing Dave is impregnated by aliens, is it your child?
What are you talking about? If a woman's ovum is penetrated by a man's sperm both of them are the parents of the resulting child. Whether there was choice involved or not. Biology doesn't change depending on one's attitude.
I have no idea how alien lifeforms reproduce, so can we stick to earthling anatomy?
If Osama abducts your daughter and has her implanted with His and Helen Thomas' embryo, is it her child?
Are you perhaps confused about how rape victims become pregnant?
If the gov't has a program of forcibly impregnating 15 YO girls, is it her child?
Why are you so hysterical in defending the right of rape victims to kill their children? No one is adocating anything like you are talking about. Stay on subject.
Evil people FORCING pregnancy upon a woman is PURE EVIL.
Yes, I am firmly against rape.
And FORCING a woman to carry the child to birth is more than cruel.
How does murder undo rape? I have seen firsthand the results of your preferred method of dealing with rape. It doesn't solve anything, it compounds the problem.
Turning an innocent victim into a murderess doesn't help.
SD
You are more than "silly" if you believe murder cancels out rape.
SD
Cite just one example
I'm just giddy.
No, you aren't.
But some things justify ending that life.
How do you think empowering a rape victim to murder her offspring is justified? Is it payback to the rapist?
Is a woman less traumatized by "fighting back" against the unborn?
SD
Silly again. I know there are real rape victims. I know one. Having her parents take her for an abortion did not help her out, it left her mentally scarred to this day.
It left her convinced God was punishing her when she had later fertility problems. It left her thinking herself unworthy when she finally did carry a beautiful baby girl into this world. It left her clinically depressed.
Murder is not the antidote for rape. I know.
SD
"The value of a person is not determined by the circumstances of his or her conception."
Some of the most lovable and loved children I know were "accidents", "handicapped" and originally "unwanted".
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