Posted on 03/09/2006 11:44:59 AM PST by cpforlife.org
I asked you politely to keep you opinion about this to yourself. I refuse to be brought into your argument.
Have a lovely evening.
If a fetus is just tissue, the government has no more place stopping an abortion than they have stopping liposuction. If a fetus is a human, they have no more business allowing abortion than they have allowing me to decapitate my neighbor because his stereo is too loud.
The problem is, the humanity of the fetus is beyond a shadow of a doubt. The only way one can deny it is to fall back on spiritually-based explanations that have no empirical backup (or potential to be falsified) and cannot possibly be used as a basis for law.
You know, there are a lot of complex moral wquestions in this issue, but there are one thing that will be a fact no matter how much other stuff is considered:
1. No child should ever have his limbs ripped off.
2. Ripping the child limb from limb will never, ever, improve any situation.
It appears Fred Phelps has opened a new branch of his church, dedicated to rape.
You read a lot of bad intent into his post that wasn't there; you made an unjustified leap.
So, let me get this straight: If someone thinks a small child should not have his or her limbs ripped off because their father was a criminal, that's the same as the guy who thanks God for IED's?
Gee, that's not over the top at all...
Sir, he made a horrible accusation.
You made a unjustified leap.
Have a nice evening.
You can't reason with fanatics. All we can do is assure those who don't know otherwise that they are fringe.
Truly astounding.
I shake my head everyday here at FR with the slowly eroding view of women by many of the knuckle-dragger, cavemen, "wimmen are bad/scary" types.
Why are they allowed to spew their hate on here? I'll never understand it.
ABSOLUTELY! Nobody's telling me that my wife or daughter is going to be forced to carry some crack head's baby because a bunch of zealots think it's the "moral" thing to do.
Thank you very much.
That was the statement. Can you back it up with one factual example or just BS?
This is what the liberals do. They build a straw-man argument and knock it down, thinking they actually made a point.
So I take it your answer is you expand your family?
Doesn't the victim have the right to reject a forced conception from a rape? Is it not her body that was violated? She did not make a choice to conceive so what right does the child have to be forced upon the victim of a rape or incest?
I am not interested in debating this with you.
Thanks for the ping!
You'd be a member of the pro-armed robbery lobby if you endorsed allowing the robber to keep the proceeds of his robbery.
Also, please tell me how a rape exception would be enforceable.
I gather from the concerns expressed throughout this thread that past attempts to limit abortion to instances of rape resulted in many women fabricating rape charges. To tell you the truth, I haven't thought about this. But, if increased allegations of rape are brought so as to endanger the viability of a rape exception, then only women have only themselves to blame if the exception is banned.
The adult pregnancy rate associated with rape is estimated to be 4.7%. This information, in conjunction with estimates based on the U.S. Census, suggest that there may be 32,101 annual rape-related pregnancies among American women over the age of 18.
** Please note that the statistics are US based ONLY.
"Rape-related pregnancy occurs with significant frequency. It is a cause of many unwanted pregnancies and is closely linked with family and domestic violence. As we address the epidemic of unintended pregnancies in the United States, greater attention and effort should be aimed at preventing and identifying unwanted pregnancies that result from sexual victimization."
PMID: 8765248 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE
Do your homework Mr. Silverback.
MM
I have no intention of trying to debate with you to determine who is right and who isnt. Your beliefs are just that, YOURS. However, may I suggest that rather than referring to anyone who's opinion differs than yours, as a moron etc. accept the cold, hard reality that this is not a cut and dry controversy. The variables are infinite.
So, Im going to guess that IF you were a woman, and had been raped and impregnated, you would give birth to that child? Thats a nice sentiment, but the truth is, that no one on this thread (or anywhere else for that matter) can or should be so judgemental unless they have been there.
I am very well aware that some women that have been in this situation and have opted to carry the baby rather than abort. God Bless them. Not all women are capable of doing that. For those women, ONLY God Himself will and should judge them. Not you, or anyone else. Im not talking about women who use abortion as a form of birth control, Im talking about women that have been brutally and horrifically violated. And YES, I understand that the end result is the same, the death of a child. But once again, nothing is black and white.
MM
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.