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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Explain why the risk is that much higher in the UAE than in Perth or Subic--without using the Malkinesque "all Arabs are terrorist raghead motherf***ers" argument.

Explain to me of COLE hit was just a lucky guess or someone knew her basic layout. OK most CONUS yard workers are cleared meaning background checks done by our side. Many are prior service usually ex-Navy. Most snipes if they wished upon discharge could get a job in Norfolk. I turned one down myself.

The ship is basically opened up. That means lines and cables running through most critical WT hatches. Damage Control capabilities are zilch. Yards like NNSBDD and NNSY, Bremerton, etc are secure yards with many assets nearby to protect them. But most of all very few ships go down that can not make it back to CONUS for repairs.

Let's see now are we sending UAE nationals to our trade schools and company schools where vital security issues are discussed? Don't play the race card on me take your PC Cultural Marxism to someone else. I would say the same if this were China or many Central American nations and Mexico. Is that diverse enough for you?

Remember also most spaces on a ship are classified. That means that not even you if you are ex-Navy can go onboard. I remember when U.S. Marines guarded not only the yards but the Naval Bases.

You can put one person who does not belong on a ship and if they know what they are doing on let's say a conventional carrier they can put it DIW and dark and never go below the second deck or take one tool or weapon onboard with them to do this. I won't say how but it can in fact be done. Snipes and a few others know about it. We are supposed to be at war as such security should be tighter than ever. In my 4 years we moored in one foreign port at a pier and it at the time was a long trusted European ally. We didn't stay there long either. Anchoring two miles off means the ship can get underway in a very few short minutes on it's own power and steering. How quick? A carrier can be underway in less than 5 minutes in those conditions.

814 posted on 03/10/2006 1:51:52 PM PST by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: cva66snipe
Explain to me of COLE hit was just a lucky guess or someone knew her basic layout.

Yeah, they looked at one of the cutaway illustrations from Popular Mechanics when the first Burke was commissioned.

OK most CONUS yard workers are cleared meaning background checks done by our side. Many are prior service usually ex-Navy.

In other words, we're relying on the same institution that cleared Walker and Whitworth for access to cryptographic material for those background checks.

817 posted on 03/10/2006 1:56:09 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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To: cva66snipe

Finally, real facts from someone who has done the real work! Thank you for your service and thank you for your post! :-)


823 posted on 03/10/2006 2:20:40 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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