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South Dakota's monkey wrench (William F. Buckley)
Townhall.com ^ | 3/7/06 | William F. Buckley

Posted on 03/08/2006 6:19:34 AM PST by blitzgig

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21 posted on 03/08/2006 7:13:17 AM PST by firewalk
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To: harpu

I could have put it less bluntly, but he already tried to cram Miers down our throats, I have no confidence he will appoint another conservative. He doesn't make it easy for us, the great unwashed base.


22 posted on 03/08/2006 7:13:22 AM PST by Flavius Josephus (The only good muslim is a bad muslim)
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To: Ace of Spades
Governor Rounds is rather popular here in SD. The only announced Democrat challenger to him recently dropped out of the race citing an inability to raise money.

I believe it was only last year when Governor Rounds caught heat when he vetoed a similar bill because he was concerned about some of the language and defensibility. I think that he is confident in this one and that he expects it to survive legal challenge.

I've never before given money to a specifically Pro-Life organization but that may be changing. I've already recieved two different organizations solicitations (one pre-signing stressing the need to prepare for the "impending court costs", the other post-signing for "campaign support"). There is some speculation that the Pro-Aborts will try to make this a ballot initiative. I don't know how successful they would be with it but can safely assume that considerable out-of-state money will flow in to promote it.
23 posted on 03/08/2006 7:41:51 AM PST by philled
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To: blitzgig
The real issue is that the Founders intended that states would compete with each other in order to attract people who would move to the area.

Thus you could have a hippy-dippy San Freakcisco and a very conservative SD or VA, and people would move according to where they wanted to be.

The over-reaching, one-size-fits-all Federal "solutions" that we see imposed by the SCOTUS and Congress have largely taken away this competition.

24 posted on 03/08/2006 7:45:45 AM PST by ikka
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To: Brilliant

I know that the immediate outcome of this particular statute is unpredictable, but I still see that it's a start in the right direction. I think that those who support the protection of innocent life have not only the moral high ground, but also current science, on our side. The push to overturn Roe will not end if this law is struck down because as the Court is returned to the "original intent" of the Founders, other states' legislatures will likely introduce and pass similar laws.

Personally, I also have a respect and affection for those who are willing to do the right thing, even if the conventional wisdom is that they will not succeed.


25 posted on 03/08/2006 7:48:04 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Flavius Josephus
"...but he already tried to cram Miers down our throats,"

Candidly, believing-in Bush & his handlers [Rove & Hughes], I think DC got major dose of "rope 'a dope"...Bush doesn't do much without 'purpose'!

26 posted on 03/08/2006 7:54:39 AM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: blitzgig
It is inconceivable that all the states of the union would imitate South Dakota.

True. California, New York, Massachusetts et al will never, ever, outlaw abortion.

Women in those states (or women who travel to them) will continue to be able to kill an unborn child for any reason, at any stage of pregnancy, as they do now legally.

Yet I heard a NARAL witch on the radio yesterday claim that "If South Dakota can outlaw abortion, then all the states will."

At least the Left is having to come up with new lies to replace the old.

27 posted on 03/08/2006 7:54:40 AM PST by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: blitzgig

What's the deal with an injunction? Anyone know the likely scenario?


28 posted on 03/08/2006 7:56:16 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: starfish923
No need to wait. See excogitate online.
29 posted on 03/08/2006 8:03:33 AM PST by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: blitzgig

The elites at National Review ought to get in touch with their mentor. Seems he's not in tune with their latest "wisdom" on the front page.

For my part I don't care how tthis plays out at the Supremes in the short term. What I care about is that legislatures are forcing pressure on the Courts, and attempting to take back their Constitutional roles. As is proper.

Eventually R v W is going to fall, the only question is how many more times the Supremes will stand as a roadblock before accepting that reality...and will the legislatures and Governor eventually just tell the Court to try to enforce R v W....with their non-existant standing army.


31 posted on 03/08/2006 8:18:18 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Rush on the MSM: drive-by shooters)
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To: bobbdobbs
Since the state law clearly violates the current Supreme Court position on the matter, this law will never be enforced. It will be struck down in the appeals court and it will not be accepted in the Supreme Court, which will let the appeals court decision stand, since it covers no new ground that hasn't already been decided.

Well, I hope not, anyway. Of course, the governor and legislature have the moral duty, if not the duty under the state constitution, to enforce the law. May the appeals process drag on so that lives may be saved.

32 posted on 03/08/2006 8:45:09 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Soul Seeker
For my part I don't care how tthis plays out at the Supremes in the short term. What I care about is that legislatures are forcing pressure on the Courts, and attempting to take back their Constitutional roles. As is proper.

Yes. Let's take a page from the tactics of the Left, such as the pushing of homosexual "marriage" at the state level. Incrementalism in the effort to protect innnocent life is no vice.

33 posted on 03/08/2006 8:48:30 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan

Except that in the instance of homosexual marriage, they have forced the issue wrongly through dictate of the courts. Legislatures have every right to take this role.


34 posted on 03/08/2006 8:57:35 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Rush on the MSM: drive-by shooters)
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To: shhrubbery!

I wonder how the future will look if there are states where it's quickly illegal, and states where it never will be.

If it's "reproductive freedom" is it really acceptable that a woman has rights in one state and not in another?

If it's "murder", is it really acceptable that one can step over a state line and commit it with impunity?


35 posted on 03/08/2006 9:00:41 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Soul Seeker
>>>>>For my part I don't care how tthis plays out at the Supremes in the short term. What I care about is that legislatures are forcing pressure on the Courts, and attempting to take back their Constitutional roles. As is proper.

You are exactly right. Under the proper understanding of the Constitution, states have the right to proscribe abortion, and South Dakota is to be applauded for exercising this right without waiting for approval from the Supreme Court or the Beltway types who favor an incremental strategy that has achieved virtually nothing in 30 years. God Bless South Dakota!

36 posted on 03/08/2006 11:52:48 AM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
I missed that one. I've never seen this one either: regicidal

I noted that too in post #8.

37 posted on 03/10/2006 7:46:57 AM PST by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Do you think that the folks in the Bush administration believes in democracy in Hamastan? If so, they need their heads examined.

There are only two types of people who think the Hamas election idicates a failure of Bush's policy of promoting democracy in the Middle East:

1. People who have a prejudice against the president anyway.

2. People who are dumb enough to think of Fatah as anything more legitimate than Hamas Lite.

Also, none of the proposed tactics to deal with the election results reject the decision; they merely bring the deserved consequences to the mopes who elected Hamas.

38 posted on 03/13/2006 8:12:24 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: Flavius Josephus
If Bush gets another pick, he may nominate a flaming liberal as payback to his liberal friends.

Actually, I'm betting on Priscilla Owens or Janice Rogers Brown.

39 posted on 03/13/2006 9:38:43 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: starfish923

Yes, regicide... killing the king.... the great Warren Zevon even worked it into a song about Elvis Presley (The King):

"Left behind by the latest trends,
Eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends;
That's how the story ends...."


40 posted on 03/13/2006 9:43:21 AM PST by linda_22003
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