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To: BlueStateDepression
What part about the line between drinking and driving do you not get?

That once we have really raised awareness and had success at getting a lot of real drunk drivers off the road, we keep moving the goalposts so now we can cash in on non-drunk drivers. And we can block the road, stake out bars, and otherwise violate the rights of Americans because we've moved the goalposts to include nearly everyone as a drunk driver. It's .08 now. That's not drunk for most people and never has been. But wait, there's more. The cop can nail you for less than that if he thinks you are "drunk" or if you rub him the wrong way. That is unfair and criminal. It is outright theft of the assets of a citizen by the state. And it's allowed to continue, even cheered. That's what I don't understand. And if you understand it, you're misinformed or very confused.
25 posted on 03/08/2006 8:19:34 AM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio

So then, staking out bars is a violation of rights somehow? That implies you have the right to drive drunk. I disagree with that statement and request that you show me where you have the right to drive drunk.

Should we not stake out Mosques where terrorists embark on their trek? How is it that looking to bars for drunk drivers is any different? I believe it is a common sense thing, don't you?

.08 is shown in study after study to show declined ability to operate a vehicle, among other tasks performed. Cops should and do field sobriety tests. results of this action lead to further testings or not. the BAC is not a stand alone enforcement tool nor is the officers own judgement a stand alone tool. These tools used in combination with each other act as checks and balances to each other. Is this not a charachteristic you agree with?

Your license is not a right. Those that afford you the ability to drive are tasked with forming the rules that govern who they allow to drive and who they do not. Age is an example. BAC is simply another example. BAC is an example that applies to all people equally. Is this a concept you agree with or not?

Please make the case for me why it is proper to drive at levels above .08, can you do that? I can offer you alot of folks that are dead and or injured that show why it is improper.


29 posted on 03/08/2006 8:32:04 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: mysterio; BlueStateDepression
if you understand it, you're misinformed or very confused.

Blue State has an axe to grind. Any argument based on reason is pointless.

244 posted on 03/08/2006 6:39:37 PM PST by elkfersupper
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