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To: SoothingDave

Imapirment DOES start with the first drink you take. What part of that chemistry do you not understand? the difference between .01 and .08 is the accepted LIMIT of inmpairment.

You say I betrayed myself....care to point out how?

So I guess when I say that I approve of .08 that doesn't ring a bell with you that I am not in favor of .00?????

Sheesh man what will it take then?????

In a comprimise no opposing side gets everything they want. .00 will never be attained because it is unreasonable. Noone in the MADD organization that I deal with directly EVER says .00 is the goal, Though some around the country do. They have the right to say that is their goal, but that does make it everyones goal.

>08 is not a stopgap, .08 is a legit comprimise so that both sides get something out of the deal. .08 is proper.

Show me why it isn't.

Funny how you tell me to admit things to myself.
Maybe it is you that should admit to yourself that you called it wrong towards me. I do not support .00 and you think I do. UMMMM care to try again?


116 posted on 03/08/2006 11:23:54 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: BlueStateDepression
"Noone in the MADD organization that I deal with directly EVER says .00 is the goal"

Wow, I knew that many at MADD had decided it was hurting their cause to keep pushing for 0.00 but I didn't know they had actually stopped talking about it in private.

But it must be true.

123 posted on 03/08/2006 11:31:26 AM PST by Nova
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To: BlueStateDepression
You say I betrayed myself....care to point out how?

Your post 86:

Every person that is killed by a driver that has been drinking could be avoided by people not driving when they drink. That is absolutely a true statement. For if noone was drinking and driving there would be noone killed or hurt by a driver that had been drinking.

If this isn't an argument for zero tolerance, what is it?

You try to keep up the pretense that 0.08 is your final answer, but I find that hard to believe.

In a comprimise no opposing side gets everything they want. .00 will never be attained because it is unreasonable. Noone in the MADD organization that I deal with directly EVER says .00 is the goal, Though some around the country do.

Follow the logic. Your own logic using your own facts. You may accept 0.08 as a political compromise right now, but would you really refuse to go to 0.05?

Show me why it isn't.

0.08 is not a problem level. 0.10 was and is a reasonable threshold for seperating the bulk of the true problem drivers from the casual drinker. If the average DUI arrest is at 0.16, why does the level need to be set at half that?

If the fatalities skyrocket for those above 0.10, why target the three-beer drinker?

SD

130 posted on 03/08/2006 11:37:33 AM PST by SoothingDave
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