Environmental tobacco smoke and coronary heart disease mortality in the United States

Pubmed ^ | 3/18/06 | Enstrom JE, Kabat GC.

[qam1]

Here's a study that we will never hear about in the MSM

PUFF

[pipecorp]

science would never allow agenda driven results.

[Publius6961]

Wow.
I think I'll wait until a competent impartial scientist translates this for me.

[Jeff Gordon]

Nonsense. Second hand smoke went away 20 years ago. The only way you can get second hand smoke is to hang out outside with the smokers.

[SittinYonder]

Second hand smoke kills. I know a guy who had a cousin who's best friend played guitar for a band that played in night clubs. He never smoked a cigarette in his entire life. He died from second hand smoke when he was just 24 years old.

Or at least, that's the way the empirical data goes.

[SittinYonder]

Or even better yet: A doctor said second hand smoke kills. Therefore, we must ban smoking in restaurants. Whose opinion matters more here, the restaurant owner's or the doctor's?

[Gabz]

Here's a study that we will never hear about in the MSM

Maybe not - but it is excellent news against such idiots as Stanton Glantz and company who have tried to claim the opposite.

[SittinYonder]

Wait, I've got another one!

It's for the children. When I go into restaurants and see the little babies in the cloud of smoke it just ... ((sniffle)) ... breaks my heart.

If I had it my way, people wouldn't be allowed to smoke in their homes if they've got the ... ((sniffle)) ... little babies in the homes.

((sniffle ... sniffle))

[Graybeard58]

I knew a guy who smoked one cigarette after another, he would throw one down, stomp it out and light another, smoke it, throw it down, stomp it and light another. He finaly died of cancer of the shoe.

[SittinYonder]

Previous assessments appear to have overestimated the strength of the association.

Be that as it may, this is still a public health issue. Nay, public health crisis. May I suggest an additional sin tax be placed on cigarettes and cigars and chewing tobacco to help pay for all the second-hand smoke lung cancer patients filling up the hospitals ...

[Graybeard58]

and chewing tobacco

Lay off my chew - no one has died from second hand spit.

[SittinYonder]

He finaly died of cancer of the shoe.

LOL ... he probably also was buried in pauper's field from all the littering fines he had to pay.

[Publius6961]

One of the most elementary concepts in statistical scientific analysis in that corelation is not (necessarily) causation.

Need an explanation?

[SittinYonder]

no one has died from second hand spit.

That's as irrelevant as the rest of my arguments when you're talking about making money for the government!

[fanfan]

I'm picturing people addicted to second hand smoke....


Hey, Bob, you haven't had a smoke in a while now.
Mind lighting one up for me to breath?
I'm getting a craving!

[SittinYonder]

One of the most elementary concepts in statistical scientific analysis in that corelation is not (necessarily) causation.

Trying telling a city council that.

[MaggieCarta]

"...these reviews have excluded a large portion of the epidemiologic evidence on questionable grounds and have been inconsistent in the selection of the results that are included."

My favorite quote about secondhand smoke: “…Why let conflicting data and insufficient data get in the way of a politically correct conclusion?” Steven Milloy, an adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute, author of Junk Science Judo and publisher of JunkScience.com.

Thanks for the post!

[moog]

Lay off my chew - no one has died from second hand spit.

We had two cockroaches die recently in a local nightclub from it:)

[moog]

He finaly died of cancer of the shoe.

God rest his sole.