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1 posted on 03/07/2006 3:31:09 PM PST by Gelato
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To: Gelato

Love your child. Don't kill it.


2 posted on 03/07/2006 3:37:29 PM PST by jw777
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So doctors are now supposed to be God and predict all. I have been going to doctors for 14 years. Only last year did I receive a diagnosis. Doctors can't and never will know everything. It's not HUMANLY possible.

Secondly, every child is a gift from God. My parents now have two handicapped children. It didn't develop until highschool years for both of us, but it has been no less painful. Thankfully, my parents don't believe in abortion and would have wanted us anyway-even if they had known. Thank God for wonderful parents.


3 posted on 03/07/2006 3:37:54 PM PST by housewife101
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Time for the legislature to forbid this claim by statute.


4 posted on 03/07/2006 3:41:32 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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As an Ohioan I am disgusted by this ruling.


5 posted on 03/07/2006 3:41:50 PM PST by bushinohio
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How would you like to be the son or daughter of this couple and find out they sued a doctor because YOU were born!!!


6 posted on 03/07/2006 3:42:09 PM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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Maybe they should just kill the child now, and claim temporary insanity because they were distraught at the doctor. Problem solved.



Do I really need a sarcasm tag?
7 posted on 03/07/2006 3:43:53 PM PST by beezdotcom
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So babies don't come with a warranty?

What are doctors' response to this going to be to this ruling? Err on the side of death?

The doctor thinks while looking at a sonogram: *Well, that's a funny-looking lump. It might be his foot, it might be a third arm.*

"Ahem. Mr. & Mrs. Jones, your baby is a freaking monstrosity. We recommend you abort now before the bills pile up."

"Oh thank you, Doctor. You're SO compassionate!"


8 posted on 03/07/2006 3:44:46 PM PST by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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The parents wish they had killed their son while they had the chance; while it was "legal."

They blame the doctors because their unwanted son lives.

A sad commentary on our society today.

9 posted on 03/07/2006 3:45:22 PM PST by Gelato
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"... told them their fetus did not have a genetic disorder that the mother carried."

Since the mother knew that she carried a gene for a horrible condition, adoption may have been the better decision for this couple.

To expect the doctors to be all-seeing and all-knowing is ridiculous.

I wonder if the doctors who performed the testing told her that the results were absolute?

Had she and her husband decided to adopt -- and the child later developed a condition -- would they then have sued the agency over what they deem an imperfect child?

Sounds like these folks wanted nothing short of what they viewed as a "perfect" child. They fail to realize that God sees no defect here.

11 posted on 03/07/2006 3:59:43 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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I believe there are those who would try to sue God if they could.


13 posted on 03/07/2006 4:12:26 PM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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This is just plain sick - and for the courts to even THINK about supporting such a position makes me physically ill.

Abortion on the basis of a genetic test is just plain wrong - particularly when you consider that tests can show a problem that never manifests itself (and isn't completely rare).

Someone please name ONE medical test today that is guaranteed to be 100% perfectly correct EVERY time, without fail, without error.

I'm waiting....


14 posted on 03/07/2006 4:16:20 PM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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Some disorders can skip a generation.

The mother should have done her homework. Or maybe she deliberately left out a few things about her family history.

Can the doctor countersue? Doctors aren't gods and depend on accurate information from their patients to do their jobs properly.

15 posted on 03/07/2006 4:17:41 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Islamofascists don't need cartoons. They're already caricatures.)
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"Justice Maureen O’Connor, writing for the majority, noted that the Schirmers had indicated they would have obtained an abortion if they had received the correct diagnosis. As a result, she said they could not sue for costs above those of raising a child without a disability."



Justice Maureen O'Connor is an idiot. First she says that a couple has the right to receive compensation from a doctor who screwed up on a prenatal screening, which means that the "right" to abortion possessed by parents has reached down to apply to the right of parents not to give birth to "imperfect" children. So this Justice O'Connor apparently wants to go back to the eugenics movement of the 1920s and to that dreadful Supreme Court opinion by Oliver Wendell Holmes in which he wrote that "three generations of imbeciles is enough" and upheld forcible sterilizations of low-IQ individuals.

But let's grant her, for purposes of argument, that abortion is a constitutional right like the free exercise of religion and having jury trials. Under such premise, she proves to be an even bigger idiot by using such illogical reasoning to limit the award to the parents. She writes that *because the Schirmers would have aborted their baby had they known he was severely retarded*, they are thus entitled only to the cost of pregnancy and childbirth. That judge got it completely backwards. Had the Schirmers said that they *would not* have aborted their baby even had they known of his disability, then they would only be able to sue for the inability to prepare for welcoming a disabled child into the world, but not the cost of raising a disabled child, since even had the doctor given them perfect information they would have still given birth to and raised their child. The fact that the Schirmers said that they *would* have aborted their baby had they known he was retarded means that, had the doctor performed the screening properly, the Schirmers would not only have escaped paying for the last few months of prenatal care and the cost of childbirth, but also for the cost of raising the child. The fact that the Schirmers would have aborted is evidence *for*, not against, compensating them for the cost of raising their child.

Maureen O'Connor not only enables the evil practice of abortion, she apparently lacks any ability to reason or analyze legal issues logically. I wonder what those prenatal screening tests would have said about her intelligence when she was a fetus.

Full disclosure: My wife and I are expecting a baby, and we chose not to undergo screening tests for disabilities, since we knew that we would have and raise our baby regardless of how God made her (we now know our baby's a girl). But even for people who for some twisted reason do not believe that aborting a disabled child is murder and thus immoral, they should be aware that I know someone who was diagnosed in the womb as being paraplegic and severely retarded, but her parents refused their doctor's advice that they abort her; she turned out to be paraplegic but mentally gifted, and ended up graduating from an elite university and law school. So the "imperfect" child that is aborted could turn out to be a genius. And even if he or she isn't, he or she is still entitled to the same human dignity as the rest of us.


16 posted on 03/07/2006 4:31:37 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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This is why doctors today routinely advise abortion for women with any chance whatever of a problem pregnancy.


17 posted on 03/07/2006 4:39:01 PM PST by madprof98
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The voters of Ohio were not informed during their respective campaigns that these Justices would be such shallow idiots. Can we sue?


18 posted on 03/07/2006 4:44:53 PM PST by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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Unreal.


25 posted on 03/07/2006 10:09:04 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("..Dubai..the bazaar of WMD components for the world’s rogue regimes.” -Congressman Duncan Hunter)
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"Parents can sue a doctor if a genetic screening misses a severe or fatal condition that would have caused them to seek an abortion, a divided state Supreme Court ruled Friday. The 4-3 decision limited such lawsuits to costs associated with a pregnancy and birth, saying such parents could not sue for pain-and-suffering damages or repayment of the costs of raising a disabled child."

This makes zero sense.

If the doctor is liable, he's liable for ALL of the consequential damages.

If he's NOT liable because an abortion would have resulted, then he shouldn't be liable for ANY of the damages!

This is another Sandra Day O'Dip$#!# opinion. Has she got relatives in Ohio?


26 posted on 03/07/2006 11:36:40 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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Justice Maureen O’Connor, writing for the majority, noted that the Schirmers had indicated they would have obtained an abortion if they had received the correct diagnosis.

Artificial means of birth control would not be sold if pregancy was not considered to be a health disorder, at least by some people. Consider that, in one room of a hospital, a doctor is delivering a baby, while in another room of the same hospital, another doctor is dismembering a baby in its mother's womb.

As a society, we hold contradictory views regarding pregnancy as a state of health, which is to say, we hold contradictory views regarding the value of human life. The idea of "wrongful death" logically follows from the idea that pregnancy is a health disorder.

29 posted on 03/08/2006 5:13:29 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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Maybe some of our big-tent, pro-choice "Republican" friends can join this thread and expound on how the slippery slope does not exist.

My sister-in-law recently was told that her unborn child had a marker for Downs syndrome, which turned out to be false. I wonder how many babies are killed by false positives?

Doctors had no involvement in the actual defect, he said, and the law doesn’t allow damages if the disabling condition existed from the point of conception.

But wait! I thought nothing but a worthless clump of cells existed at the point of conception, certainly not a person with a "disabling condition".

32 posted on 03/08/2006 5:41:18 AM PST by garv
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Good! I have seen this take place and put the girls in precarious situations but the girls chose to keep their child. Guess what!? The babies were fine and not one thing wrong with them.

If they had listened to these doctors and their test they would have aborted a perfectly healthy baby.


33 posted on 03/08/2006 8:21:23 AM PST by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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