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Whites to Be Minority in New York Area Soon, Data Show
New York Times ^ | March 7, 2006 | Sam Roberts

Posted on 03/07/2006 5:58:23 AM PST by HostileTerritory

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To: RadioCirca1970

Yeah exactly my thoughts as well – Really surprised by this waste of data and money -


141 posted on 03/07/2006 2:44:50 PM PST by GoShow
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To: Clemenza

"I have met mullatos from the Dominican Republic with red hair and blue eyes who, nevertheless, have kinky hair and sallow skin from their African ancestors."



If you want to impress Cuban acquaintances with your knowledge of Cuban idiomatic expressions, describe such person as "un mulato ruso"; when speaking to Puerto Ricans, describe such person as "un jabao." Actually, many Cubans also use the word "jabao," but for some reason my mother and grandmother exclusively use "mulato ruso."


142 posted on 03/07/2006 2:53:00 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: Clemenza

I'm sure you know this, but for the benefit of other FReepers, "mulato ruso" literally means "Russian mulatto," since the stereotypical Russian (in Cuban eyes, at least) has curly red hair and green eyes.


143 posted on 03/07/2006 2:56:53 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: Clemenza

I will . I work in Union City . Cubans dont usually call themselves white. The make a difference between non Hispanics (white people ) and themselves. They also dont associate themselves with other hispanics generally. They do however call me white and NOT themselves.


144 posted on 03/07/2006 2:57:14 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: Clemenza

My old man worked 40 years in Colgates as well. I had a studio on Exchange place. I agree there are tons of immigrants here . But there are one hell of a lot of rich white people still here as well. Look at Hoboken . I'd have to save 3 life times to rent a 3 room flat there .


145 posted on 03/07/2006 3:00:14 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Clemenza
Where do you get this number? Not from baptismal records, I assume. If you are saying that only 35%-40% of Hispanics in the U.S. mainland attend mass on Sundays at a Catholic Church, then you're probably inflating the number, but if you include nominal Catholics, then you are probably understating it.

These are registered members of the Church. Roughly in 2000, there are 45+ million white Catholics, and about 5+/- million who are Asian or Black. This leaves about 15- million who are Hispanic, out of a population of 35 million. Roughly 20+ million Catholics attend Mass on a given Sunday.

There are certainly additional nominal Catholics who are not at all active and are not formal members of the Church. I would say these number roughly 5+ million Hispanics and 10+ million Whites.

146 posted on 03/07/2006 3:51:39 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker; Clemenza
....Downingtown Borough is 10% black and 6% Asian and Hispanic combined. Coatesville City is 40% white, 50% black, 10% Hispanic, negligible Asians. 60% of the blacks in the county live in Downingtown, Coatesville, Phoenixville, Oxford, and West Chester, leaving 10,000 to populate the remainder of a county that has 360,000 people. ~60% of Hispanics (10,000 of 16,000) live in the Mushroom farming areas and Coatesville. 6,000 out of 360,000 does not make for diversity, and a number of these are classic white Spaniards from Latin America (I know because I've interviewed some of their kids for Carnegie Mellon admissions).....

Both of you make interesting points, and you both can name districts, cities, boroughs etc. right down to percentages....but from an outsiders prospective this isn't a melting pot.....this is about as segregated as can be in the areas that these metropolises occupy. Frankly, we're more diverse and integrated in the rural districts than this supposed "big melting pot".....

147 posted on 03/07/2006 4:14:42 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Clemenza

Don't forget Monsey.


148 posted on 03/07/2006 4:15:29 PM PST by wardaddy ("hillbilly car wash owner outta control")
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To: Clemenza

or North Miami Beach or The Hammocks area of West Kendall


149 posted on 03/07/2006 4:16:24 PM PST by wardaddy ("hillbilly car wash owner outta control")
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To: binkdeville
Union City Cubans probably call you "white" because in the blue collar/ghetto northeast Jerey parlance, they are "nonwhite" by default. The "white ethnics" made a point 40 years ago of declaring that all Latinos were "nonwhite."

In Miami and in suburbia, it is a different story. Even the Union City Cubans, when pressed, will call themselves "white Hispanic." In South Florida, the white Cubans even segregate themselves from the black and mulatto Cubans (who live in Alapattah, rather than Little Havana and the 'burbs).

All of my Cuban friends and colleagues have always considered themselves to be "white Hispanic", particularly as most of them have traveled in Latin America and Spain, and are upper middle to upper class.

150 posted on 03/07/2006 6:25:59 PM PST by Clemenza (President: North American Hobbit Hunters Society)
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To: wardaddy

Won't it be nice when we are all brown?


Thank you Andy Rooney for the above.


151 posted on 03/07/2006 6:27:00 PM PST by Red Rock Rocks
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To: binkdeville
Union City Cubans probably call you "white" because in the blue collar/ghetto northeast Jerey parlance, they are "nonwhite" by default. The "white ethnics" made a point 40 years ago of declaring that all Latinos were "nonwhite", particularly as they moved into their "naybahhoods."

In Miami and in suburbia, it is a different story. Even the Union City Cubans, when pressed, will call themselves "white Hispanic." In South Florida, the white Cubans even segregate themselves from the black and mulatto Cubans (who live in Alapattah, rather than Little Havana and the 'burbs).

All of my Cuban friends and colleagues have always considered themselves to be "white Hispanic", particularly as most of them have traveled in Latin America and Spain, and are upper middle to upper class.

BTW: I didn't think that there were any Cubans left in Union City. I thought that they had all decamped to suburbia.

152 posted on 03/07/2006 6:27:13 PM PST by Clemenza (President: North American Hobbit Hunters Society)
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To: HostileTerritory

When will they start teaching Ivornics at NY schools?


153 posted on 03/07/2006 6:28:36 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: AuH2ORepublican

"Mulato Ruso" is a term I am quite familiar with. Of course, my favorite term remains "chongo", a Cuban Americanism that is used to describe lower class, darker Latinos who listen to hip hop and act ghetto.


154 posted on 03/07/2006 6:31:31 PM PST by Clemenza (President: North American Hobbit Hunters Society)
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To: wardaddy

What you say is very true. Thomas Sowell talked about how the Brits consciously promoted this idea of "the mystique of the all powerful white man" in the Carribbean and Africa. Old habits die hard.


155 posted on 03/07/2006 6:36:06 PM PST by Clemenza (President: North American Hobbit Hunters Society)
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To: Clemenza

I have never heard of "chongo"; perhaps it was adopted by Cubans in Miami, not Havana (my mother lived only briefly in Miami). But it sounds like the Panamanian term "chombo," which is a derogatory term for black (I don't think it's quite as bad as the N-word, but I never heard a white Panamanian use it in front of a black person who might understand Spanish).


156 posted on 03/07/2006 6:40:52 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: Red Rock Rocks
Won't it be nice when we are all brown?

NO!

Somes of us like real diversity as God made us humans, and don't wish to become a mish-mash tan everyman.

157 posted on 03/07/2006 7:34:47 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Clemenza; AuH2ORepublican
Of course, my favorite term remains "chongo", a Cuban Americanism that is used to describe lower class, darker Latinos who listen to hip hop and act ghetto.

Ah! Chongo = Whigger in working class white parlance.

158 posted on 03/07/2006 7:37:06 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Condor51

lol, same in Los angeles...


159 posted on 03/07/2006 7:38:19 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Clemenza
What you say is very true. Thomas Sowell talked about how the Brits consciously promoted this idea of "the mystique of the all powerful white man" in the Carribbean and Africa. Old habits die hard.

If you were attempting to subjugate 1/3 of the known world, wouldn't you promote a myth that you are the all-powerful and unstoppable MAN? If you can actually convince people of that, its relatively straightforward to keep 1 billion people in line with 100,000 Britons.

160 posted on 03/07/2006 7:38:39 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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