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If you ask me, it's pretty pathetic when there are Westerners suggesting that the way for our culture to "succeed" is to outbreed the human equivalent of feral cats. If we do that, we won't have succeeded; we'll have sunk to their level. Fortunately, I don't think the purveyors of this nonsense will have much luck persuading Western women that they should have more babies, so that they can send the "extras" off to engage in endless bloody warfare with the Arab hordes.

And re the IQ difference, that would narrow quickly if Westerners took up the Arab world's breeding habits. A difference of that size is easily accounted for by malnutrition in utero and in early childhood. If we increase the percentage of Westerners who are making babies that they can't or won't support properly, our average IQ will start sliding downhill. As it is, many of the most intelligent Westerners are limiting their child-bearing in large part because of the huge tax burden imposed on them by governments which force them to pay for raising the many children produced by less intelligent Westerners. An aggressive program to cut births among the welfare class would certainly cause a rise in births among the educated, productive class, and an accompanying rise in average IQ.

Westerners are limiting their child-bearing in large part because of the huge tax burden imposed on them by governments which force them to pay for raising the many children produced by less intelligent Westerners.

Actually that is not correct. Most european countries have serious child tax credits. Heck, in Germany, the govm't flat out pays to the parents almost a $1K a month per child. And Germans still don't have them. Frankly, its about selfishness. The developed European world's professionals, intelligencia, generally the middle and upper classes, don't want to give up the good life (the travel, vacations, dining) that raising children requires. Hence the birth rate. They consider the lifestyle they're accustomed to a right. But that could all change should a serious threat to existence manifest itself, as it is beginning to now. In either case, outbreeding is not necessary nor a solution. The current technological advantage we enjoy nullifies any number advantage they might hope to achieve in next 100 years, and the technological divide will only widen. The issue is that internal enemies must be expelled and stopped from undermining the wester infrastructure on the inside. I'm not worried yet. I believe they overplayed their hand and moved to soon. The Europe is awakening.

As it is, many of the most intelligent Westerners are limiting their child-bearing in large part because of the huge tax burden imposed on them by governments which force them to pay for raising the many children produced by less intelligent Westerners.

While there is some truth to this, I think feminism (career over family) and materialism (having the best stuff trumps everything) is as much or more to blame. The flip side of the coin is that the Arab hordes are sure making use of their extras to fuel their Jihad (intentionally or not). The West has to deal with that somehow--so far. we've been doing it poorly. Our politicians (egged on by economists) are obsessed by getting the immigrants in so we can make up for our dearth of children. They seem not to care that we are importing lots of Muslims as well--and the ultimate impact that will have.

If you ask me, it's pretty pathetic when there are Westerners suggesting that the way for our culture to "succeed" is to outbreed the human equivalent of feral cats. If we do that, we won't have succeeded; we'll have sunk to their level. Fortunately, I don't think the purveyors of this nonsense will have much luck persuading Western women that they should have more babies, so that they can send the "extras" off to engage in endless bloody warfare with the Arab hordes.

Well said. And what's with the influx of these articles on FR lately? Has some whackjob interest group gotten its marching orders from someone?
Earlier this week, some maniac was actually suggesting that American adults without children shouldn't be allowed to vote!

And re the IQ difference, that would narrow quickly if Westerners took up the Arab world's breeding habits. A difference of that size is easily accounted for by malnutrition in utero and in early childhood.

That is conventional wisdom, but it is not scientifically accurate. The low IQ in the mohammedan world is in part a product of inbreeding depression; other parts of the difference are harder to account for but the difference is real, and heritable. It does not result from environmental factors, nor can it be cured by them.

Saudis and other wealthy Gulf Arabs, for instance, are not the least deprived, but they're still statistically speaking one standard deviation behind Europeans, who are themselves 0.8-1.1 or so SDs behind Ashkenazy Jews.

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