Posted on 03/06/2006 8:18:41 PM PST by tbird5
Speaking of Dali and of light - his Last Supper is breathtaking. Prints of it don't begin to capture what he did on the canvas.
Dali's Last Supper hung in my Pastor's office when I was growing up. All of us kids used to stare at it and Pastor LOVED explaining it to us.
>> Boss Ross's schtick was to show that ANYONE could learn to paint. TK is proof that not everyone SHOULD paint! <<
Bwahaha! Thanks for the chuckle!
I've been there. He sucks.
Agree with your first paragraph, totally disagree with your second. Let's see your grandma's work. Wish I could paint like Kinkade.
This is -- believe me -- written conversationally, not angrily: how do you feel competent to define what is and isn't "art"? Having something you want to say, and being able to say it with skill and beauty and in a way that highlights some good aspect of God's creation -- that's not art?
I feel competent to say, "I like this, I don't like that." I feel competent to say, "This looks like it was done skillfully, in terms of saying what the artist wanted to say. This looks like it was done by a drunk three-year-old."
I feel far too hesitant to say, "That is done with skill and beauty, it accomplishes what the artist wants to accomplish, it brings out something good about God's creation -- but it isn't art."
If you say Kinkade doesn't fit the definition of the preceding paragraph, then I guess our contexts are too unrelated to carry much more conversation.
Dan
You only assume that 'those folks' are taking the LA Times at their word. Please see my reply at #190.
The huge edition sizes and saturation of the market are not opinions or allegations, but facts. Those facts existed before the LA Times article, they existed before the lawsuits, and yes they existed when everyone was ignoring them and still making money. This outcome was predictable, IMO.
Some of us out here have regarded the whole Thomas Kinkade phenomenon as kind of an Amway for Art for a long time. Since that opinion has been long formed, the current opinion of the LA Times is immaterial.
I saw it only once years ago in the National Gallery (I think)and still remember vividly coming around the corner and seeing the picture looming ahead of me.
Just one more item to put on my list of "Things to See and Do"!
Care to reassess your statement?
Here is "No Salvation" with spray-painted chicken feet
Here's "Our Father who art in Heaven" with a sheep cadaver, a rosary, and a Bible.
And here's "Sacred Heart of Jesus" with a bull's heart pierced with surgical instruments:
And here is a crucifixion by the same artist above
And, last, here is "Adam and Eve"
Alas, my friend, this is artistic relativism in full bloom. Here is a quote from the Decadent Movement of the 19th Century:
Sin is no sin when virtue is forgot.I defy you to find beauty in such depravity.
It is so good in sin to keep in sight
The white hills whence we fell, to measure by . . .
Ah, that's the thrill! . . .
First drink the stars, then grunt amid the mire.
Richard Le Gallienne, from "The Décadent to His Soul"
sw
Excellent post! Thanks for taking the time to show us the stuff that's in the galleries. If people don't see it, they don't really believe it.
A nice Church in the Huntington. Now THAT'S a "painting of light". BTW, Church was the "Kinkade" of his time, in terms of popularity.
This contemporary work is not the only abstract work that's going on. I agree, this work is junk. But that doesn't make Kincade good. The alternative is not Kincade or postmodern junk.
There are many decent artists working out there who do not get the attention they deserve.
Maybe we need a new ping list for all hard-working artists who need more press. Or perhaps we could establish our own FR gallery, not only of FR artists, illustrators, etc, but for artists whose works we do like.
You may be the only FReeper who's willingly watched a Boondock's episode, period.
I love your recent posts, and I love to track the numbers of viewers.
It's a great deal easier to track viewers if you could put Art in the Keyword slot when you post them. (Or just let me know if you used another keyword that I can use to search with.)
Just a suggestion, for all who are inspired to post an art-related article. :)
Thanks for all your great work in the arts. It is wonderful to get thousands reading these bubble-gum and Kincade articles.
Oh, I agree. Here is a sample of Larry Kudlow's wife, Judy's work.
Reminiscent of Vermeer.
Kincaide is not my cup of tea (then again neither is the velvet Indian Chief my husband has hanging in his butcher shop). But this article seems more about wallowing in the glee of airing Kincaide's dirty laundry than anything else. I don't follow this man's career at all - why is he such a hot topic right now?
Sorry if my humor was turned off; on another board about the "gum incident", people were saying the Frankenthaler painting basically deserved what it got for not being their idea of "art", and I guess the steady drumbeat of ignorance gave me a headache. :)
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