[gogoman]

You are Indian-Am and clearly very Pro-India. But you also forget India was not the US's historic ally. India, like China, was NOT in favor of our war in Iraq. The new Indo-US relationship is good for America, but is it so hard to see that many other nations in the world might at the moment have a hard time adjusting to this new change? Even Australia was put in a difficult spot by the Indo-US deal. A lot of Chinese are Pro-US, and the current Chinese administration is certainly not Anti-US. The Chinese should be viewed as a potential challenge (threat) to American power and interests, but there's nothing for you to beat the war drums with yet. You seem to think India can do no wrong, and chastize the Israelis for the slightest transgression. You forgot that India and the former USSR were socialism-loving allies in the Cold War. So I take great offense at your generalization of all Chinese as being Communist sympathizers and your blatant agenda on FR of INDIA = GOOD, CHINA = BAD; INDIA FREE TRADE = GOOD, CHINA FREE TRADE = BAD. You got to realize, India had pariah status for the last 2-3 decades in the US foreign policy. There was a reason for that. It's great that relations are now normalized, but there's still a long way to go. Many Chinese-Americans on FR were originally from Taiwan, HK, Singapore, and coastal cities of Shanghai, Shenzhen and Guangzhou and are not sympathetic toward the Communists at all. Just like you don't think the 100,000 protestors in New Delhi represent Indians' opinions of America, we don't believe all Chinese are polarly opposed to the US. The communist government of China does not represent the entire voice of the Chinese people (membership of the Chinese Communist Party is less than four percent). The Chinese middle class today is larger than the Indian middle class, and is also overwhelmingly pro-US and pro-Western values. Ever been to a Chinese language internet forum? There are tons of discussions on democracy and free speech made by the Chinese middle class; censorship can only go so far. I think we as Freepers should encourage that, just as we encourage the Indo-US relationship. Sure China's government is not a democracy, but we need to support grassroot democratic interest in China, not hinder it. So let's cut the crap on INDIA = GOOD, CHINA = BAD. Both play strategic interests for the US at the present moment. China is vitally important to the health of the US economy and inflation control right now. Until Bush openly states that China is an eminent threat to America, put the war drums back into the closet.

[indcons]

You're right, I am pro-India; I have never tried to hide that fact. And yes, I am anti-ChiCom too (and not anti-Chinese). BTW, if you see my posting history, I bash Indian communists and socialists a much as I bash the ChiComs.

If you believe that the ChiComs are friends of the USA, you are in for some rude surprises. Check the thread on the ChiCom killing of dissidents in Atlanta, GA. The murder was carried out by suspected ChiCom "diplomats" (if the source is right.

You're wrong about my attitudes toward Israel. I admire the Israelis (as I have pointed out repeatedly). However, the Israeli collaboration with the ChiComs is a cause for concern.

[indcons]

Welcome to FR, btw. Looks like you know quite a bit about me in the 2 days that you have been here...LOL.

Go find out a bit more about me before spreading your pro-ChiCom propoganda.

[monkeywrench]

"Until Bush openly states that China is an eminent threat to America, put the war drums back into the closet."

The chicoms themselves have openly stated their threats to us. It's also obvious in their dealings around the world, that they are a threat to world stability and security.

[Gengis Khan]

Wow! Is that script written by your commissar agent?

" Ever been to a Chinese language internet forum?"

Yep plenty including the rascist anti-Indian and anti-Japanese ones.

"There are tons of discussions on democracy and free speech made by the Chinese middle class; censorship can only go so far. "

Really?