The Marquis de Sade: The Left’s Man of Diverse ‘Sexual Orientations’

Chron Watch ^ | Macch 5 2002 | Linda Kimball

[little jeremiah]

Not for the faint of heart*; hard hitting article. I highly recommend it to anyone who already sees the problem, and even more to those who don't see the problem.

*The faint of heart are the reason why things have gotten to this sorry pass. Faint of hearts - it's time to take sides, one or the other. By not taking sides against evil, one is choosing to support evil.

[little jeremiah]

For both lists.

[goldstategop]

De Sade's books are the most horrific ever written. After three or four pages, one gives up. No wonder he was confined to the asylum. They are a mad man's vision of the psyche and his notion of sexual sadism is not what I can accept. It is libertinism pushed to the ultimate extreme.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[xcamel]

Technically correct, The "left" does not build, it only wrecks.

Some of today's "lefties" treat everything like De Sade treated sex.

[wagglebee]

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This is a wonderful commentary on the left and their efforts to destroy our society.

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[Search4Truth]

Wow! That was great. She really did her homework. God bless her.

(I learned a new word today, "coprophillia")

[goldstategop]

We've come a long way since the 18th Century in embracing the perverted, the abnormal, the profane and the shocking as acceptable, normal, holy and ordinary. Its at a remove between then and now that we can see how much our views about social behavior have changed. And not necessarily for the better. If De Sade made a contribution to our thought, its of a world in which rules and sexual identity can be reimagined and redefined according to how different individuals desire to express them.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[King Moonracer]

Its like homos. Is there one gay engineer for every 10 gay Actors, fashion designers, artists? One for every 100, or 1000? Talk about about culture that values form far more than function.

[lesser_satan]

bump for later

[Williams]

Is any "Emperor's New Clothes" more transparent than academia's? When you have Harvard "professors" who tout bestiality, etc., Harvard is no longer an institution of higher learning, it is a joke. An expensive joke that is wasting valuable educational time on sexual depravity.

I have to juxtapose this with something a science writer keeps telling me - that America is no longer producing smart people, that is now happening in places like India. I wonder, as they produce engineers and doctors, are those countries allowing pedophiles and other kooks in their universities?

[JohnBovenmyer]

For those who are interested by medical mysteries and blessed with a strong stomach, the title story in this collection, The Beetle of Aphrodite and Other Medical Mysteries explains what de Sade did to earn his death sentence for murder in absentia. Half the story is some 1950s deaths that resulted unintentionally from the same cause. The rest of the book has several other, less gruesome, interesting mysteries.

[Peter Libra]

At the same time that the Left revels in it's "new freedoms", it is notable that they do not simply wish to wallow in their own self made sewer.

Consider their attitude to those who do not wish to follow. Do they simply shrug their shoulders and say "every one to their own"? No, they do not. What they do however, is to heap vituperation, ridicule, and abuse on those who try to protect their own way.

This extends to the attack on the rights of children. To be brought up "the way they should go" is commonsense. If should be done with the best interests of a child. If the child wishes to go the way of the Left, when they reach adulthood, they will have plenty of opporunities.The Left wishes corruption, BEFORE the child has to know it's own mind.

The hate of the Left for those who wish a different path, is because seeing those other people, holds up a mirror to their own sick, obscene souls.

[Albion Wilde]

bttt

[little jeremiah]

Thanks, I don't need to know everything. Some stuff just sticks in the mind even when you don't want it to....

[Ronin]

I think I made it to about page 10 of 100 Nights before becoming so physically ill I had to throw the thing in the trash, take a shower, brush my teeth, and I still felt filthy.

That man was beyond perverted. He was a monster.

[Billthedrill]

De Sade seems even by modern standards to have been clinically insane. I've read Justine, Juliette, and struggled through the nearly unreadable 120 Days Of Sodom, a book that was actually recreated by De Sade after the original was burnt, (and which of these was the one Beauvoir chose to defend). He wrote that the recreation wasn't as good as the original. One can only imagine.

The po-mo's have it wrong: De Sade wasn't actually advancing anything in particular as much as he was providing a disquisition on how systematic rejection of (especially) Christan mores led to a hedonistic sort of paradise on this earth - this is especially pronounced in Justine. The difficulty is that the hedonistic paradise he described was banal, brutal, and unutterably boring.

It is actually a fairly good measure of the intellectual progress of the postmodern left - it was a doctrine based on and restricted to rejection. There are flaws with present-day society just as there were flaws in de Sade's, and the assumption that categorical rejection of every more that built present society will lead to some sort of mirror-image utopia is one that even its adherents must know is illogical, and hence they reject logic; is immoral, and hence they reject morality, is incoherent, and hence they reject coherence. It is also impossible, which is a much more difficult thing to reject. The only recourse to demanding the impossible is to pretend that you've attained it, and that is precisely where postmodernism leads, to a grand fantasy world with increasingly few connections to the real one.

[RightWhale]

Simone de Beauvoir (heroine of the man-hating lesbian feminists)

They haven't read her writing, or they didn't understand it. She was one of the early feminists, though.

[CatoRenasci]

DeSade was writing in the same climate of opinion that vaunted Rousseau's adoration of the primative. I, too, slogged through DeSade, back when I was a graduate student in intellectual history specializing in the Enlightenment and thought I needed to understand the dark side of it as well as the more luminous facets. In many respects I think DeSade is a fascinating reductio ad absurdum on the branch of the French Enlightenment that encompassed Rousseau. It's curious how great the contrast is between the French Enlightenment, which seemed ever attracted to extremes, and either the English or German Enlightenments, both of which combined philosophical speculation with a firm connection to common sense.

[little jeremiah]

Liberalism (really, leftism and all its pet isms) is a (serious) mental illness.

Objective reality exists, and they don't "believe" in it.

[El Conservador]

I read Philosophy in the Boudoir almost 6 years ago, a few months before I came to the US.

From what I vaguely remember reading, I'll agree with your assessment, but I'd like to add something:

He was more Nietzschean that Nietzsche himself. His hedonistic, "perfect" world would be ruled by Godless, powerful human beings who wouldn't budge in killing and maiming to achieve absolute power.