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To: WOSG
I'll give a few small clues of optimism on one matter ... WE ARE WINNING IN IRAQ:

If so, then why did William F. Buckley, Jr., patron saint of Rush Limbaugh, come out last week against the war? Maybe we are "winning," but it doesn't "feel" too much like we are. Perhaps we should declare victory AGAIN and get out of there, or can we?

233 posted on 03/05/2006 7:16:04 PM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Theodore R.

You Buchananites would LOVE for the US to tuck tail and get out of Iraq, and everywhere else in the international community.

That attitude would be why Pat Buchanan and his followers CAN'T WIN ANYTHING.


234 posted on 03/05/2006 7:21:30 PM PST by MikefromOhio (22,952+ replies - wow I'm talkative.....)
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To: Theodore R.

Me: "I'll give a few small clues of optimism on one matter ... WE ARE WINNING IN IRAQ:"

TR: "If so, then why did William F. Buckley, Jr., patron saint of Rush Limbaugh, come out last week against the war?"

This one was dispatched readily in a thread at the time. Buckley is just misinformed, reading the New York Times and considering their 'facts' as determinative and ignoring many other manifest facts on the ground.

I cited a Ralph Peters column that punctures the myth that Iraq is going to pot ... Peters is IN BAGHDAD...
he says:
"In place of the civil war that elements in our media declared, I saw full streets, open shops, traffic jams, donkey carts, Muslim holiday flags - and children everywhere, waving as our Humvees passed. Even the clouds of dust we stirred up didn't deter them. And the presence of children in the streets is the best possible indicator of a low threat level. Southeast Baghdad, at least, was happy to see our troops.

And we didn't just drive past them. First Lt. Clenn Frost, the platoon leader, took every opportunity to dismount and mingle with the people. Women brought their children out of their compound gates to say hello. A local sheik spontaneously invited us into his garden for colas and sesame biscuits. "
http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/64677.htm

I'll take the on-the-ground-now report over the handwringing that comes from reading too much media defeatism anyday.

If it was a 'civil war', why are the casualty rates for both US and Iraqi forces becoming steadily *LOWER* ...
http://icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeaths.aspx


" Maybe we are "winning," but it doesn't "feel" too much like we are."

Of course not, when you get the drip-drip of defeatism from the media. If you dont trust the New York Times and lamestream media on other matters, why do you treat their bias as gospel when it comes to Iraq? Same agenda (defeat Bush), same bias!


239 posted on 03/05/2006 7:37:18 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: Theodore R.
Maybe we are "winning," but it doesn't "feel" too much like we are.

Don't know you...but that type of talk reeks of Liberal.

383 posted on 03/06/2006 8:44:32 AM PST by Osage Orange (Credere et Peristere)
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