Dubai Flap Threatens Other Investment in US

Financial Express ^ | 3/03/2006 | Staff Writers

[ScreamingFist]

You make good points and I appreciate your candor. That said, I understand the US is not selling our ports and have never indicated otherwise. The UAE wouldn't exist (as it does now) if America and other countries hadn't developed their infrsastucture and literally handed them the capitol to diversify into everything from ports to department stores. They are a cash juggernaut, so what? Two generations ago they were rubbing sticks together to make fire, and I don't want muslims that support the elimination of Israel managing American ports.....clear enough?

[NRA2BFree]

A British judge ruled on Thursday the $6.85 billion takeover could go ahead.

Did anyone else catch that? Since when does a British judge make rulings on US matters? THIS is globalization at it's worst!!

[Fruitbat]

You're so far out of context on my comments that I'm barely going to respond. I will say however, typical for someone pro on this.

I never said that the UAE was a third world country. In fact, if anything, there were implications by me to the opposite.

Yes, I have done plenty of research into the UAE and one of my very close relatives has been over there to live and work! Thanks for asking.

The next two questions of yours fall behind those and are also irrelevant. Your logic using them is sophomoric.

Since when does "business" override the religion of a nation full of people hell bent on carrying out the desires of such a "religion," and I use the term very loosely?

By your logic, just because a twice convicted child molester gets out of prison, starts a successful business, gives back to his community, and lives in ritz, he's qualified to open a daycare facility in town! It's stunning.

[Fruitbat]

Yeah, the same classified info P&O handled.

Yeah, and let's say for the sake of the argument, the Soviet Union and Communist China also handled it. Then it's still fine with you, right?

Nothin' like lookin' into key issues, eh!

LMAO...

[curiosity]

Have you given any consideration at all that their nationalistic concerns may be about becoming an educated, wealthy and progressive (in a good way, not the dumb dem way) country?

Have you given any consideration to the possibility that educated, wealthy and progressive countries often have conflicting national interests?

[LibertarianInExile]

Duncan Hunter and Richard Shelby are simply bigoted racists who simply don't understand the deal and don't understand national security. /sarc

[LibertarianInExile]

"The American people are told time and time again that globalism is good for them, but so far, it hasn’t turned out to be true. Just because our standard of living in the US is unrivaled in the world doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be better if our borders had been enforced, or if tariffs were the source of revenue for the federal government, not the income tax. Our tax-free trade with China and France is subsidizing their failed political systems on the wallets of the American worker. Globalism sends American dollars all over the world to cure every ill, but instead enriches corrupt politicians. Every time Bush, who is more Nixonian than Reaganesque, speaks publicly it costs the American taxpayer. Globalism is sending good paying manufacturing jobs overseas. Globalism encourages foreign management of all of our terminals because terminals are the equivalent of the buggy whip industry, right? Globalism refuses to enforce our borders. Globalism wants the US to sign onto Kyoto. Globalism creates a drug benefit entitlement while Social Security threatens to bankrupt the nation. Globalism allows Airbus to bid on US Air Force projects and China to make military uniforms. Globalism favors the income tax to tariffs (think of tariffs as targeted sales taxes, while the Fairtax still allows Federal control over the states). Globalism encourages participation in the UN. Globalism wants to diminish nation-state identity. Globalism seeks world government and our constitution stands in the way. I don’t fear globalism, I hate it, but I love being an American. I am a genuine conservative."

Amen, brother Nephi!

[LibertarianInExile]

"I can't even begin to express to you how sick and tired I am of hearing such rhetoric! If the UAE is gonna "pick up their game and pieces and go home" so that no one can play over this, then fine! F' em!"

Great post BUMP!

[texastoo]

Excellent post.

I believe Bush has pushed us into globalism and the UN faster than Al Gore or any democrat ever could.

[Sally'sConcerns]

Did anyone else catch that? Since when does a British judge make rulings on US matters? THIS is globalization at it's worst!!

Hmmm, maybe because the company selling is a British company and would fall under the jurisdiction of the British courts. The only reason there's any issue about this sale here in the states is because the British company owns leases which cover parts of docks, wharves, terminals and/or container facilities located in some of the US's ports.

[Sally'sConcerns]

Have you given any consideration to the possibility that educated, wealthy and progressive countries often have conflicting national interests?

Of course I have. Why would I think the UAE would have conflicts when I'm aware America does also.

[Cannoneer No. 4]

The key issue being that you don't have a clue what classified info terminal operators have access to. Or what levels of classification. All you really care is that they're A-rabs, and their American employees at the American port are going to betray their country and let them A-rabs hurt us again. And to keep that from happening we ought not let furriners in our ports, and if that pisses off the furriners enough that they won't help us anymore in fighting the war, well then screw all them A-rabs and Moose-limbs, they weren't really our friends anyway. Kill 'em all, let Allah sort 'em out. That way we'll be safe. America, f**k yeah!

[Fruitbat]

Yet another post clueless to what I've said! ; ) You can't possibly be more wrong. It is funny however, all of the knee-jerk people hammering on others, such as you, personally directing your temper to individuals, while broad-brushing them, completely incorrectly I might add. I will say this, I'd wager that you are as ignorant as ignorant can be as to Islam. Not an insult, but an assertion. Clearly it has merit since you keep saying "A-rab." LMAO... It is interesting that for people that have taken your side, the sum total of the United States' participation in a global economy ALL comes down to this one single deal. Oh yes! If this deal goes through, then we're participants in a global economy. If not however, then we are protectionist, will have all of our interests withdrawn from any form of global involvement economically, ....when Cannoneer?,....by what say ye, .....next weekend perhaps! ROFLMAO!

There's a sanity to this issue, but I hate to be the one to break it to you, it's not on your side.

And since you know oh-so-much about my position, you'd know then that I'm not dead set against this deal, right? RIGHT?!

And again, since you're so smart, wise, and visionary, you'd realize that you've already answered your own question/assertion.

The key issue being that you don't have a clue what classified info terminal operators have access to. Or what levels of classification.

No! No Cannoneer, I don't!!! Neither do you. But in your infinite wisdom, you'll realize that I have at least posed that question, right? Oh, how many times now, .... a good 20 right here on FR!

And, Cannoneer, how many viable responses have I received on it? Well, none from you! None from anywhere else either.

So in your seeming self-righteous rant, please, enlighten us all oh great maharishi, what "classified info and what degrees of classification" specifically and exactly, do "port operators" have access to???

I genuflect and bow and await your gracious answer oh great guru of all things known to man!

; )

LMAO...

PS I'm all ears as are many others here!

[Fruitbat]

Meanwhile, I direct you to Sally's Concerns in post #56 who apparently thinks that b/c the UAE has a 7-star hotel, that that's a great reason that they should run our ports.

Oh, the hysterics here are pretty damned entertaining to an extent.

[CowboyJay]

If they are as modern and moderate as some believe, they should embark on a course of action that increases their credibility, and not throw a hissy fit, and lose whatever cred they already have.

Good point. I was impressed when they backed-off pending the congressional review. I'd have been more impressed if they'd just backed-out altogether when NY State filed suit. They should have a right of refusal, given the circumstances, IMHO.

[Fruitbat]

The key issue being that you don't have a clue what classified info terminal operators have access to. Or what levels of classification.

Pardon the interruption your omniscience, but we peasants still await your provision of the above information...

[genuflect]