Have you two met Chamberlin?
Better yet, have you met the denizons of Daily Kos? They frequently deal in half truths, lies, and propaganda. You'd both be welcomed there with open arms if these two posts are evidence of anything.
R.W.Ratikal, once you started your post with the non existent Iraqi civil war..it was disregarded as worthless.
varon, I really don't know how any person of good conscience could equate free men and women choosing to put their life on the line voluntarily to protect their own country and free another people as equal to suicide bombers that worship tyranny and death. Therefore I find you lacking in good conscience. Furthermore you are a DAMN LIAR with the spewed rhetoric that a WEAK American president was manipulated...since you care so much about polls why don't you try running a CHECK on his polls in 2002 and 2003. At the time this was being debated and begun. Then don't humilate yourself further by coming back here and trying to justify 2006 polls as influencing a 2002-2003 decision.
As for your sweet fanciful theory Americans are going to toss politicians out for staying in Iraq, go have a chat with Murtha and the House Dems that voted not to withdraw. Go have a little chat with the Dems that only had EIGHT vote against the Patriot Act. Go have a chat with the damn traitors in that party that are so afraid they've weakened themselves into a LOSS over the WOT/Iraq that they tried to present themselves as tough with the ports.
Everytime I come close to considering teaching the spineless Republicans a lesson people like you, or Murtha, cannot keep your traps shut and end up teaching me I've got no choice BUT to put Reps back in despite the fact they are headed by the likes of McCain, and Linds, and Specter.
So keep talking and running your fingers on that typeboard or moving those lips, so that people like myself will remember that more is involved than petty political lessons.
The only difference is if the cause and the means used are just.