[Dane]

You are wrong here. The Berlin wall did exactly what it was erected to do, stanch the flow of refugees across the border into West Berlin. Without it, East Germany would have literally become a deserted country. After the wall, the flow was reduced to a trickle of brave heroes

And stalinist communism still failed. What's your point?

[rock58seg]

And stalinist communism still failed. What's your point

I think his point is that your view has about as much relevance as JFK standing by the wall in Berlin and calling himself a pastry roll...."Ich Bin Ein Berliner"..had.

[CowboyJay]

"And stalinist communism still failed. What's your point?"

I think you're still missing the point, here. Think of the flow of migrants in terms of pressure flowing across a permeable membrane. East Germany (communist) actually helped West Germany's economy by building the wall.

It restricted the flow of poorly educated cheap labor into West Germany, and cut down on their social costs.

By making emigration to the West difficult for East Germans, it led them to protest and demand reforms, thereby aiding in the collapse of the Soviet Bloc.

I think the general consensus on this thread is that a wall will not only help our economy by letting us make use of limited resources to take care of American citizens, and give dissatisfied Mexican citizens more motivation to push for change at home, as they will no longer be able to just come north to flee the problems.

Win-win for both countries in the long haul.

Doesn't sound all that bad, does it?