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Nelson wants to fence off Mexico
Omaha World-Herald ^ | March 4, 2006 | Henry J. Cordes

Posted on 03/04/2006 6:50:54 AM PST by Hat-Trick

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To: Borax Queen

Ha......my spies will now throw chum in the waters......


41 posted on 03/04/2006 8:27:54 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: jackbenimble

"If that RINO were running head to head for President against Ben Nelson, I'd vote for the Dim without thinking twice."

Me too. If the Dims keep on using common sense I just may think about becoming one!


42 posted on 03/04/2006 8:29:54 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Hat-Trick; All
Hagel has advocated legislation that would give legal status to undocumented immigrant workers under certain conditions,...

I think Nelson is doing a trojan horse to get the illegals into the US.

. ALL immigration visa reform must be 100% contingent of completing the fences FIRST. Otherwise democrats will want to have a "rush for the boarder" before the fence is complete.
43 posted on 03/04/2006 8:37:49 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: dljordan

.....while Sudan would step forth and say, "You are not doing it properly. Let us show you how to use slave labor! We will do your contract for 65% less and guarentee completion 180 days sooner."


44 posted on 03/04/2006 8:38:12 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Defiant
You clearly think in platitudes and simplicities, and fail to understand complex situations.

Whatever sam donaldson. I'll stick with President Reagan.

Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall(President Ronald Reagan, West Berlin, 1987).

45 posted on 03/04/2006 8:46:34 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane; yoe
yoe: Putting up a fence will have little effect and cost the taxpayer jillions. ..snip... This is more about drugs than anything else

Dane: Me I would like to see a guest worker program implemented and anybody who has not signed up, immediately deported.

One of you wants to turn this into an anti drug thread, and the other wants to blunt any sensible, workable measures. Why is that?

The really obvious thing here should be that the Democrats are catching on to how serious the voters are on this subject, while the Republicans are trying to play a shell game and divert our attention.

46 posted on 03/04/2006 8:50:27 AM PST by rock58seg (As funny as Democrats pretending to know about Natl Security and quail hunting.)
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To: rock58seg
The really obvious thing here should be that the Democrats are catching on to how serious the voters are on this subject,

Please, the demos "catching up". LOL! There are many different bills, McCain/kennedy, Kyl/Cornyn, and now this Coburn/Sessions/Nelson(2 Pubbies and 1 democrat, and one of the few democrats who voted for Alito).

So before you spout something, do your research, and also the lib media is promoting McCain/kennedy, which includes real amnesty, while I support Kyl/Cornyn, which doesn't.

47 posted on 03/04/2006 8:56:08 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: rottndog

I like the way you think.


48 posted on 03/04/2006 8:56:20 AM PST by rock58seg (As funny as Democrats pretending to know about Natl Security and quail hunting.)
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To: buckeye2159

You are right. Mexico is an outhouse as far as their worker (PEE ON) class is concerned. But exporting their problem to us allows them to not fix it.


49 posted on 03/04/2006 9:01:11 AM PST by rock58seg (As funny as Democrats pretending to know about Natl Security and quail hunting.)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

I'm glad to see that Jeff Sessions (R-Ala) is in on this. Alabama is being flooded with illegals too.


50 posted on 03/04/2006 9:05:15 AM PST by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: Hat-Trick

A democrat who gets it and a supposed republican in Hagel ready to sell us out. This November is going to be very interesting.


51 posted on 03/04/2006 9:13:49 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Dane
So before you spout something, do your research,

O.K. you started it...
I am not so stupid as to not be able to tell the difference between a fence meant to keep something in as opposed to out.
Nor am I stupid enough to believe that the proposed legislation you cite will be enforced any better than the present laws.
Nor am I stupid enough to believe those proposals are little more than an act to get them through the next election, with the appearance of having done "something".

You claim to have done research.. fine...when you are ready to show some evidence of having learned anything.. get back to me.

52 posted on 03/04/2006 9:16:34 AM PST by rock58seg (As funny as Democrats pretending to know about Natl Security and quail hunting.)
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To: Dane

Anyone who uses RR, and the Berlin Wall, to argue against a fence to control unfettered Mexican immigration, well, it's just impossible to argue against someone like that. I'd have to start at the beginning, like 2nd grade or so, and build on that base of understanding and logic, and then maybe we could talk. In your case, I don't have time.


53 posted on 03/04/2006 9:17:03 AM PST by Defiant (Socialism is to Communism as Social Islam is to Islamofascism. Neither will work.)
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To: rock58seg
You don't understand, Rock. Here's the argument:

RR said Berlin Wall bad.

Therefore, all walls bad.

No Cogito, ergo Dane.

54 posted on 03/04/2006 9:20:18 AM PST by Defiant (Socialism is to Communism as Social Islam is to Islamofascism. Neither will work.)
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To: Defiant
Anyone who uses RR, and the Berlin Wall, to argue against a fence to control unfettered Mexican immigration, well, it's just impossible to argue against someone like that. I'd have to start at the beginning, like 2nd grade or so, and build on that base of understanding and logic, and then maybe we could talk. In your case, I don't have time

JMO, sarcasm isn't your all DUmmies strong suit.

55 posted on 03/04/2006 9:22:34 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Hat-Trick
For those who haven't noticed, the Democrat Party is re-inventing itself as the party of border security. Imagine that. Just in time for the election.

Earth to Dubya, come in Dubya....

crickets chirping...(en espanol)

56 posted on 03/04/2006 9:26:19 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Defiant; Dane
JMO, sarcasm isn't your all DUmmies strong suit.

He wants illegal aliens, and supposedly we are the DUmmies. I think Ol Dane is mad. (pun intended)

57 posted on 03/04/2006 9:30:43 AM PST by rock58seg (As funny as Democrats pretending to know about Natl Security and quail hunting.)
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To: Dane
Why is a miltarized Berlin wall bad, while a militarized southern border wall is good.

The Berlin wall was primarily built to keep their people in, rather than other people out. Either wall would serve both functions.

Just because plugging the biggest leak doesn't make the boat watertight is no reason to stand there and let it sink. Bailing (rounding up and shipping illegals home) isn't cheap either, and the expense is completely open ended.

58 posted on 03/04/2006 9:32:39 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Dane
JMO, sarcasm isn't your all DUmmies strong suit.

You wouldn't understand sarcasm, as you don't understand border issues. By the way, RR would have been strongly in favor of a fence. During his administration, "La Migra" still went into neighborhoods and factories and rounded up Mexicans and shipped them back to Mexico. He opposed immigration reform for years, and finally agreed to it after Senator Simpson of Wyo. pushed it for years. Employer sanctions were the key, and would have worked, if they had been enforced after Reagan. Instead, they became a joke. But RR hated the idea of amnesty, it was the biggest stumbling block. Faced with a wide open border and no enforcement, he'd have done two things: Enforced the border, enforced employer sanctions, and challenged congress to come up with a guest worker program that wasn't a disguised amnesty.

But you know RR better than I. After all, you have a picture of him at the Berlin Wall. Newbie.

59 posted on 03/04/2006 9:36:50 AM PST by Defiant (Socialism is to Communism as Social Islam is to Islamofascism. Neither will work.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Bailing (rounding up and shipping illegals home) isn't cheap either, and the expense is completely open ended.

Don't confuse him with facts.. He's done research.

60 posted on 03/04/2006 9:36:56 AM PST by rock58seg (As funny as Democrats pretending to know about Natl Security and quail hunting.)
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