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To: OwenKellogg
"“Free Trade” systematically destroys our ability to produce products competitively

Isn't there a "Perot for President" rally you should be attending, or a shop stewards meeting, or something?

Also, the lead article on your link is by Thom Hartmann whose own webpage describes him as a Democrat, a liberal and a progressive.

Time for some better economic research."

Let me get this straight you are disputing the numbers from the page I posted even though they are from the federal reserve because you found an unrelated statement and article you don't like?

And since you don't want to deal with the facts of the numbers you try to falsely characterize me based on that?

Here's a novel idea; why don't you give me a specific example of whats wrong with the research instead and perhaps then we can have some meaningful conversation.

69 posted on 03/04/2006 12:10:13 PM PST by hawkiye
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To: hawkiye

Hawkiye, I didn't say:

"Isn't there a "Perot for President" rally you should be attending, or a shop stewards meeting, or something?"

I did say:

"Also, the lead article on your link is by Thom Hartmann whose own webpage describes him as a Democrat, a liberal and a progressive.

Time for some better economic research."

... but nowhere in my comment did I dispute the numbers. But you say:

>> "Let me get this straight you are disputing the numbers from the page I posted even though they are from the federal reserve because you found an unrelated statement and article you don't like?"

Hawkiye, you haven't got anything straight. I didn't dispute any numbers. I merely pointed out that your website of reference: www.economyincrisis.org is very suspect. There are no names linked with it -- who owns this website? The website is advocating bigger government and less freedom. It's probably safe to assume that our dear labor unions or someone related to them is sponsoring this website. It is not what I'd call conservative. So once again, I didn't dispute the numbers, I'm pointing out that "Economy in Crisis" is very suspect.


>> And since you don't want to deal with the facts of the numbers you try to falsely characterize me based on that?

Hawkiye, I didn't falsely characterize you. I characterized your link. But I did want to deal with the issue you raised about "Foreign Financing of US Government Debt". As a matter of fact I asked questions to clarify whether your issue was about the fact that Congress runs deficits or whether your issue was about how foreigners invest dollars that they earn while engaged in free trade.

But you failed to answer my question and clarify.Instead you accuse me of disputing the numbers. Quite a diversion.


>> Here's a novel idea; why don't you give me a specific example of whats wrong with the research instead and perhaps then we can have some meaningful conversation.

Hawkiye, I gave you specific examples of what's wrong with your research source. Economy in Crisis is anti-freedom and pro- big government. This website is a shill for some organization that is opposed to conservative values and the owners of the website do not have enough integrity to say who they are. It could be Michael Moore that is behind this fear-mongering, protectionist website.


75 posted on 03/04/2006 1:50:57 PM PST by OwenKellogg
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