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To: sirchtruth

"The problem as I see it is not with what the teacher said, the problem is he was kicked out for saying it, and no one was allowed to counter or present an opposing view to his idiotic rant."

--- Wrong point of view

The problem is that an Authority figure is politicing not teaching.

There is no one in the class room to "counter or present an opposing view".

Any student who tries to "counter or present an opposing view" will be punished either openly (held up for ridicule or treated as a "trouble maker") or in secret (grade lowered). That the student had to tape the class session is proof that he knew that he would be retaliated against without iron clad evidence.

Free speech implies a level playing field



Extending your arguement means that you have to support Dan Rather & Mary Mapes in Rathergate because Rather's forged documents was his speech and "the problem is he was kicked out for saying it"


16 posted on 03/04/2006 4:52:14 AM PST by Casekirchen (The Crusades were a defensive response to 400 years of islamic rape, murder & terrorism)
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To: Casekirchen
actually free speech implies that you don't have to listen if you don't want to. of course, these kids and all kids in classrooms are a captive audience. thus, teachers should not be allowed to deviate from the ciriculum.

In college, of course, you or your parents have paid for the instruction and to walk out would defeat the purpose in being there. But, if public schools allowed students to walk out when the teachers started these rants, they'd walk and then the school would have to enforce the ciriculum.

Imagine how careful these leftists would be if they knew half the class would be out on the lawn the moment they talked about anything but geography!

Before anybody starts, I know that you pay for the public school too but attendence is mandatory and you don't write checks to the school. Kids often don't see the connect.

17 posted on 03/04/2006 5:07:08 AM PST by cb
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To: Casekirchen
Any student who tries to "counter or present an opposing view" will be punished either openly (held up for ridicule or treated as a "trouble maker") or in secret (grade lowered). That the student had to tape the class session is proof that he knew that he would be retaliated against without iron clad evidence.

Free speech implies a level playing field

...And that's my point. They're should ALWAYS be a level playing field in this country of the U.S. Your'e right, he shouldn't be politicking, but on the other hand he should have full rights to free speech as well as any other student. And if it causes him to get FIRED because he wasn't doing his job, then so be it. I want these idiots to speak because they sound so ridiculous and people see them for what they truly believe.

Level playing field with the understanding of what game you're currently playing.

21 posted on 03/04/2006 5:16:20 AM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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