[bobjam]

If the state is going to pay for health care, then the state gets to make health care decisions. It will only be a matter of time when we learn of a situation where state beaurocrats are insisting on pulling the plug on a devote Catholic over the expressed wishes of his family. Next, the state will try to pressure pregnant women into having an abortion if tests show the child they are carrying is likely to have Downs Syndrome or some other "expensive" defect.

[Old_Mil]

If the state is going to pay for health care, then the state gets to make health care decisions.

How right you are. A friend of my father saw his wife die of breast cancer in England because she was too far down the list to get chemotherapy. Nationalized health care is a disaster for everyone except the government bureaucrats who run it.